It seems like food allergies or intolerances are either much more common, or much more widely recognized and treated these days. Some people believe it’s a result of humanity being removed from the effects of natural selection. Others propose it’s a consequence how clean our environments are, leading an immune system accustomed to murdering novel pathogens 24/7 desperately searching for something to attack, and turning on us instead. Some even think it’s a result of gut permeability that may be linked to internal inflammation.
Whether this is a genuine increase in the number of people with dietary problems, better diagnostics, or something else, it is a fact of life that many people deal with daily. You may even have such a person in your friend/family group. If so, it makes the process of preparing for a disaster more complicated.
More common issues like nuts, gluten, eggs and dairy are relatively well-catered to nowadays though that certainly wasn’t always the case, but for whatever reason, many people now have issues with things like soy, corn, oats, spices, and even for some people, parsley. There are allergy/intolerance tests you can have done now with over 250 possible problem-foods. The symptoms of such an issue are often disparate and difficult to directly pin down to a particular food.
If you do have someone who you might wind up bugging out, or in with, in a possible disaster scenario, give the link a read and see if you’ve left anything out of your preps. Their suggestions are fairly simple, cover all the bases, and include things like personal care products that may need to be “special” to avoid provoking an immune response. Intolerances can make life awful, and allergies can kill, so it’s worth a second look if it’s something you need to consider for yourself or others.
Just in time for the media’s attention span, a new/old conflict seems to be brimming on the horizon in Eastern Europe. Veterans of the last half of the 90’s will remember Kosovo and its conflicts well, but for the rest of us, NATO-KFOR (Kosovo Force)’s twitter feed dropped us a reminder of our involvement.
To be clear, if Serbia really were to attack Kosovo, under the terms of the peacekeeping mission NATO has been operating in Kosovo since 1999, KFOR says it would intervene. If this happened, it would pit the western military alliance directly against a long-time staunch ally of Russia. Even as Serbia has been looking more economically west of late, its cultural and political ties to Russia are not loosening. Oddly, the primary instigating factor right now seems to be license plates, if you can imagine. New rules in Kosovo would require residents replace Serbian-issued plates for new Kosovar ones. Serbia has yet to recognize Kosovo’s decade and a half old declaration of independence, and this reminder seems to have pushed some over the edge. There are no injuries as of this writing, but the situation is tense. Cooler heads seem to be prevailing for the moment, likely bolstered by NATO-KFOR’s summary declaration.
What exactly this would mean for NATO-Russia relations is unclear, but in an already hostile environment surrounding what amounts to a proxy war between Russia and the West, the list of options is not a happy one. Russia could decide that this is the last straw, and do all sorts of things that would ultimately harm itself as much as anyone else. They could also use negotiations surrounding Serbia as leverage to find a way to exit their current war of attrition in Ukraine while attempting to save face by coming to Serbia’s aid diplomatically. This might be the best possible option, but it’s at the top of a very short list of good ones.
If we’ve learned anything from the last 6mo of Ukrainian resistance, it’s that conventional warfare in the modern era isn’t likely to play out in real life the way it looks on paper. Whichever news source you believe regarding the Ukr/Rus conflict, it’s fair to say nobody expected it to last this long, and the Ukrainians have, in several arenas, seemingly made bricks without straw. From commercial drones carrying rifle grenades adapted into homemade aerial bombs with 3D printed fins and release mechanisms, to their rapid, effective implementation of lend-lease style weapon shipments they had no prior experience on, they’ve surprised just about everyone.
Serbia is no Russia, and Kosovo is certainly no Ukraine, but the Serbs have dragged us all into a meatgrinder once already in the last century or so. Lets hope they don’t stage an encore.
We’re in a golden era of 5.56 rifles, and not just AR15s. Everything is good!*
*(almost… almost everything)
Seriously though, you have to go rather out of your way to ignore good advice and good buying habits completely to end up with a junk rifle these days. Will you get a better rifle by spending more? Usually, but even as you decide on a make/model or makes/models that you’re willing to pick up go hunt for a good price. I’m not saying quibble over $20 but there could be a $200 price swing between someone selling at or above MSRP and someone else who is comfortable moving them at MAP.
I found a screaming deal on a “used” unfired LWRCi M6-SPR. Deals exist if you can be patient and keep-a-lookout.
Snagged for $60 less than a new M6IC-DI, which generally cost around $500-$800 less than the piston guns.
(Reuters) – A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld a 2019 federal rule banning so-called “bump stocks,” a rapid-fire gun attachment that was used in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled that guns equipped with bump stocks qualify as machine guns, which federal law almost entirely bans. The decision was a setback for the Sacramento, California-based non-profit Firearms Policy Coalition and other gun rights advocacy groups that had sued to challenge the rule.
We are continuing to see the spirit and letter of the law clash in this regard. Bumpstocks are not machineguns in any sense but legally. It makes no practical mechanical sense, but when has that ever stopped a law…
“We are disappointed but not surprised at the result,” said Erik Jaffe, who represents the gun rights groups. “We think the court made a number of factual and legal errors that we plan in pointing out in further appellate proceedings.”
Translation, the court has probably tossed this to the Supreme Court, or at least someone else, so they aren’t blamed for being the ones to bring the scary, go pew fast plastic back onto the market, with its use in the Mandalay Bay slaying and other negative associations. We’ve talked here before about the Las Vegas massacre and how the bumpstock did not significantly enable the horrific casualty count. That was largely the concert venue and attack location, where any rifle would have been devastating. A bolt action rifle under those circumstances could have perpetrated the worst massacre in US history.
A spokesman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the federal agency that oversees gun regulation, declined to comment.
They know that as soon as an objective court not swayed by rhetoric, or events, or playing it safe for their district and passing the buck, takes up the case it falls apart. The entire determination is that a stock with no active mechanisms makes it too easy to shoot fast and that is too much like a machine gun.
Bump stocks allow a rifle’s stock — the part of the gun that rests against the user’s shoulder — to move on a spring. This means that, if a user pulls back continuously on the trigger, recoil will cause the gun to bounce against the user’s shoulder with each round, releasing and then pulling the trigger repeatedly in rapid succession.
And here we see blatantly inaccurate reporting on what a bumpstock is and how it works, perpetuating misinformation about them. Bumpstocks are not complex, just like brake pads aren’t complex. This is the equivalent of telling the public that brakes and brake pads actually reverse the direction of your wheels while you are breaking and that is how you slow down.
That isn’t how you slow down at all, but you do slow down so a casual reader could simply assume that the stated reason is why.
[NOTE: I did contact Reuter’s and the author responded that a correction would be made to the story. I do not know how the bumpstock was actually defended and described in deliberations. I will maintain the original text here because it was the forward facing text at the time of publication and the court decision.]
Former President Donald Trump had pledged to ban the devices soon after a gunman used them to shoot and kill 58 people at a country music festival in Las Vegas in October 2017.
In December 2018, the administration announced that a rule classifying bump stock-equipped guns as machine guns. A 1986 amendment to the National Firearms Act and Gun Control Act banned nearly all sales of newly manufactured machine guns.
The gun rights groups sued the ATF in Washington, arguing that the agency lacked the authority to expand the definition of machine gun. U.S. District Judge Dabney Friedrich denied their motion for a preliminary injunction and later granted the government summary judgment, finding the agency was entitled to deference in interpreting the definition of machine gun under federal law.
This is… concerning. Machinegun has a very concrete mechanically engineered definition. We aren’t asking how humid is “uncomfortable”, a question which has a subjective answer within a range. We are asking if a firearm is designed to and capable of firing, reloading, and firing again with a single deliberate manipulation of the trigger. That is yes or no.
On appeal, the groups argued that bump stock guns do not qualify as machine guns because the user has to keep pulling back as the gun recoils. The panel rejected that argument.
That isn’t how bumpstocks work and if this was the actual argument the layer failed in their description of the device’s basic function.
“By this logic, we would no longer characterize even the prototypical machine gun as a ‘machine gun,’ given the extent of rearward pressure on the trigger required to operate it,” Circuit Judge Robert Wilkins wrote. “That cannot be right.”
No. It isn’t right. Everyone is misunderstanding this and we have a silly decision because of it.
It is all there, right there, in how this device works. A bumpstock does not make a rifle automatic, it gives you a situationally specific mechanical advantage in how quickly you can manipulate the trigger, taking advantage of the recoil impulse which is always there and your supporting arm which is also always there.
A bumpstock is in no way required in order to ‘bump fire’ a firearm. The internal mechanisms to make a firearm automatic are absolutely required in order to make a firearm automatic, parts have to work in a specific order. To use a vehicle example again. An automatic firearm’s mechanism is like a set vehicle of brakes, they are specifically designed to stop a vehicle. You can also stop a vehicle by having it run out of momentum. A bumpstock is more akin to a navigation app that showed you where you could stop your vehicle without using your brakes, thus helping you do something you can do without the app. It is not a secret different method of braking, no brakes are involved at all.
This court ruling is essentially, “Yeah but you still stopped, so the United States Department of Transportation says that is braking.”
Put another way, the court is trying to tell me that the FAA says I can fly and I am therefore a plane, when what I actually did was skydive or even just jump up into the air. There justification for continuing to tell me that I am legally a plane is that I was in the air. Even though flight is a definable powered mechanical process, because I was in the air I was “flying” and am therefore a plane. That is the logic being used to say a bumpstock is a machinegun.
Our lives have been taken over by ads these days. Often soulless and often intending to use some subtle form of manipulation to get us to open our wallets. While we might be sick of modern ads, there is some charm to the vintage ads of yesteryear, and to me, it’s especially true in regards to gun ads. Old gun ads are just great, sometimes insane, silly, and other times an awesome representation of the era. With that in mind, I put together a few of my favorites from yesteryear…and one modern one worth mentioning.
Dupont “Old Stuff”
It was 1918, and the world was still at war. Admittedly the war would end that year, but there were plenty of men still in the trenches. Dupont American Industries had an ad in Outdoor Life at the time. This isn’t one of our traditional gun ads, but it’s still somewhat of a gun ad. DuPont produced gun powder, and they had a stake in people shooting.
Their ad portrays an American wielding the famous Winchester 1897 Trench Shotgun. The ad mentions the man being a trapshooter and that hitting a grenade out of the air and dropping a charging ‘hun’ is just old stuff. The ad encouraged folks to learn to shoot, join gun clubs, and more.
Thompson Desperado Ad
After World War I, poor General Thompson had a hard time moving Thompson SMGs. These guns would’ve been great in the trenches, but after World War I, there wasn’t a big demand for them. This was prior to the NFA, so Thompson and Auto-Ordnance advertised to the everyman. To the man who owned a farm, ranch, or plantation, someone who is far away from any police response and is clearly a threat to roaming gangs of desperados.
Well, maybe, it’s doubtful, but why not. Large land owners were the only people who could likely afford the expensive Thompson SMG. The ad portrays a rancher gunning down a team of outlaws coming after his home! Auto-Ordnance’s description of the gun is long and interesting, calling it a machine gun and shoulder-fired rifle in pistol form. It’s one of my favorite gun ads because I want to buy a home defense SMG without the NFA.
Savage and Influencer Marketing
I did an entire article on Savage using influencer marketing to sell their unique and innovative Savage M1907 pistol. They used gunfighters like Bat Masterson to advertise the pistol, and they published numerous ads in one of the first examples of influencer marketing in gun ads. The ad feature Bat, a quote from him about the gun, and then a few paragraphs describing it.
I’m pretty sure modern advertising is more about the quick delivery, but Savage didn’t get that memo. It’s paragraphs long, but you get a good description of the gun and more. The ad mentions a booklet written by Bat, it’s called the Tenderfoot’s Turn, and you can find PDFs of it online.
Choate Entry Weapon
Choate is fairly well known for its wide variety of shotgun accessories, stocks, magazine tubes, and more. In 1988 they were a smaller company and had a small, easy-to-miss ad on the back of a number of gun magazines. Gun ads tell a story, and this one is no different. At this time in the gun world, the shotgun was the police weapon of choice.
Choate wasn’t selling guns, and they were selling you the means to build your own entry weapon. This includes a magazine extension, a heat shield, a forward pistol grip, and the coup de grace, a light mounted on the receiver called a Lite-Site. It’s a Mag-lite designed to be used as a sighting system that also has a velcro-mounted tape switch. This shotgun is the 1980s Mall Ninja’s dream.
Uzi Killed It In the 1980s
Uzi puts the plural in gun ads. I couldn’t pick just one because Uzi freaking killed it in the 1980s. Their ads were absolutely amazing, and if the ad companies received awards, IMI should dominate. A cute lady wielding Uzis while wearing Uzi merch? Yep, we got it!
What about a cyber background that automatically makes you hear synth music? IMI has you covered.
Not just once, but twice. Also, what happened to gun companies producing merch? All the ads back in the day often advertised shirts, hats, patches, etc., to go along with your purchase. Why’d we stop doing that? Also, IWI, bring back the retro yellow Uzi shirt as a limited run. Please!
Glock Has an Arrogance To It
Glock was sassy back in the day. These days they do the European stoicism in their advertising. Modern Glock ads are probably some of the better ads out there from the gun world. They display concealed carriers, police, and military users. Back in the day, they were a little arrogant. More Hans Gruber in their advertising.
The thing is…they are kind of right. Who doesn’t produce a polymer frame striker-fired gun these days? Those companies are all trying to get those Glock-influenced dollarydoos.
EAA Crazy Gun Lady Ad
Okay, so the article is all about the best gun ads, but I also want to include the most insane series of gun ads ever created. EAA released a series of ads with terrifying robotic women who have guns for legs. You’d think there would only be one, right? Well, nope, they’ve done it with a wide variety of their guns, from CZ clones to cowboy six shooters. If I have to see it, so do you.
Good Gun Ads
Gun companies have to be fairly careful with how they advertise today. No one wants to be too cringe or try hard, but they want to make an impression. Modern gun ads all look alike, and it’s sad. I wanna see more cuties with Uzis and fewer shades of blue, black, and grey. Let’s make gun ads great again.
Most gun owners, collectors, competitors, and shooters would probably agree that their bundle of experiences since the time they lined up the sights to fire their first ever shots through the present point of their firearms related experiences could be referred to as some type of “journey.” A little cliché? Probably. But chances are that many of these individuals have at stories about guns that got away—guns that they sold and later regret letting go of or they just miss.
Here’s one of mine: My PARA FAL Carbine
My PARA, a cobbled together 7.62mm NATO carbine, is also known as “the right arm of the free world.” This is a rifle that probably needs no introduction for most. It is certainly a quirky and interesting design (with its tilting bolt and the way it locks into the breach).
This gun was conceived from the mind of Dieudonne Saive, a Belgian designer who worked for FN and also happened to be one of John Moses Browning’s colleagues towards the end of Browning’s career. The FALs development was somewhat halted by the Second World War, but it came to fruition in the post war era during the Cold War and NATO years. Besides the United States with its M14s or M16s, and the German G3 wildcard shortly after the G1 (a FAL), it seems that any other serious fighting force during this time either wielded the FAL or a Kalashnikov.
My personal PARA FAL Carbine was put together from a combination of genuine military factory parts and American made aftermarket parts (mostly DSA). My upper receiver was an Argentine FMAP Type 3 that had a DSA sand cut bolt carrier and a para folding charging handle. It had an 18-inch barrel with an FN F2000 flash hider. A DSA Picatinny railed dust cover sat on top of this receiver. The dust cover held an ADM “low” 30mm scope mount through which an MRAD Vortex Viper PST 1-4x magnification LPVO was suspended. Being a PARA Carbine, this naturally had an FAL folding stock—mine was a unit produced by DSA.
Southern California canyons and gorges make for good spots to place steel on so you can tag them from across the way.
Sadly during the timeframe I owned this carbine, I hardly shoot it (maybe 150 rounds in totality?) However I got one good range trip out of it which I still remember to this day where I had the chance to ring steel out to 500 yards at one of the lest restrictive private ranges in southern California with the help of that Viper PST scope.
Though I certainly miss having such a cool rifle around, especially since the FAL’s heyday has come and gone, the truth is that I sold this rifle for a modest profit a few years back to be able to afford to move away from California for good. We can call that a fair trade, especially since remaining California compliant was 80% of the reason I hardly used it.
Did you know Eric and Barry from Iraqveteran8888 had a TV show called Prepper Hillbillies on the Discover America channel? Neither did I until I stumbled across it on Amazon. Iraqveteran8888 is a juggernaut of a Youtube channel with 1900 videos and over 2.5 million subscribers.
The channel was an OG of guntubers, and their famous series Gun Gripes was the partnership of two gun store employees named Eric and Barry. The series started in 2012, and that was about the same time I started watching gun guys on Youtube. The channel has evolved and grown, but Gun Gripes remains a popular part of the channel even after Barry’s tragic passing.
Upon discovering the show, I bought the series on Amazon for eight bucks and cruised through the six episodes fairly quickly. Each is just over 20 minutes long, and I figured I could do a retrospective and review of the show.
Prepper Hillbillies – The Setup
The Iraqveteran8888 channel has always been a gun channel, but they have flirted with prepping and various subjects related to survival. The Prepper Hillbillies TV is predictably more about prepping and survival…kind of.
Barry narrates the opening and describes the three characters. Eric has a military background and is a tech wizard. Barry is old school with roots that go back to Davey Crockett. Fred is described as a third-generation prepper. The premise of the show is that Eric, Barry, and a third man named Fred are a security company.
Or like a prepping company. It’s not really clear. They meet with homeowners and help them improve their home’s security. Even though the homeowners are typically concerned with home security, the crew often puts a prepping spin on their consultations and installations.
Guns are seen and shown, but the crew isn’t advising too much on guns. It’s a fairly simple premise. Each episode starts with the crew of Prepper Hillbillies meeting with the family at their home. They explain the problem, the crew looks around, and then start making some rather crazy plans to improve security.
Prepper Hillbillies – Not Quite Reality
Reality television has rarely displayed reality, and this show isn’t any different. The production seems somewhat amateur. This was 2014 and only two years into the Iraqveteran8888 channel. I wouldn’t be surprised if Eric and the crew helped produce the show. The crew listed on IMDB is very small. The producers listed both have a history of lower-end reality shows.
It’s fairly typical and what you expect from a reality show of this era. It’s in that Preppers, Discovery Channel, History Channel style documentary. The guys do some work, have some confessional-style commentaries on what they are doing, and some zany contrived danger.
The show obviously has some staged elements. Funny enough, the first ‘client’ is Chad, the current co-host of Iraqveteran8888. The guy’s ideas aren’t always practical. Eric’s contributions with motion sensors, cameras, and alarms often make sense. They reinforce doors and windows on occasion, but they also get zany.
They install zip lines, spike strips, and tank traps on top of some other silly stuff. The contrived drama and danger often come from these security features. I’m almost positive that having a tank trap or spike strip sets you up for some kind of liability.
Most of their advice is fairly standard. Have extra water, have food, have some basic preps, a go bag, etc. They also give some bad advice, like using tampons to stop bleeding from a gunshot wound.
Being a Prepper Hillbilly
Barry has a natural charm and personality that makes him perfect for TV and made him perfect for Youtube. In the show, he’s fearless and natural on camera. People realized this, and he’s more or less the main feature of the show. The show makes me miss old Barry and his stories on gun gripes.
Fred is supposed to be the crazy comedic character, and he does fine. It’s a little contrived, but the guy tries. Eric is the straight man who is the leader of this eccentric little gang. What’s odd is that the show doesn’t mention the Youtube channel. However, they do the very 2014 Youtube thing and use binary explosives to dig holes.
The show has some charm to it. It is fun to watch and harkens back to classic reality TV. It’s worth a watch, but it won’t blow you away. To me, it was like bonus episodes of Iraqveteran8888 with Barry. His tragic passing is apparently the reason the show was canceled.
It blows me away that this show completely escaped me. Still, if you can spare the eight bucks, give it a watch. It’s worth a few chuckles.
Ladies and gentleman. The AK-12 was an unnecessary rifle. Ukraine has shown this in spades as the Russian forces pushed forward with slick rifles taking advantage of literally zero advantages the AK-12 allegedly gave them.
Our own YouTube detectives and deep divers have extensively tested the few domestic builds we have available and the results were decidedly… meh.
The AK-12 is mid, no cap, in the modern parlance of the kids these days. The Russians rebuilt a weapon they already had and they half-assed it.
Why?
Well let’s take a proper gander at propaganda.
Propaganda is a weapon – The weapon is propaganda
Being competent is only half the battle, deterrence and influence you can project comes from convincing others you are competent and the Russian military seems to have spent all their time on the convincing half.
From their super suit body armor that they probably built exactly one of and nobody actually wants to ear, then their extremely limited number of advanced fighters and tanks, to the actually fielded AK-12 with no modern optics on most of them. The idea was propaganda. Propaganda is marketing and that is something I do too.
The difference is simple, propaganda is marketing an idea. Usually from a state or large entity to other states, entities, and the individuals who make them up, including their own members. We do it in the US too, but we usually remember the top secret ingredient.
[TOP SECRET INGREDIENT: Be able to back your bullshit.]
Think about it like this. The US did a substantial, multi-tier, force wide upgrade to its small arms. Everything has optics, everyone has NVGs, and everyone is rocking an M4A1 or HK M27. We just announced or new even more betterer rifle and light machinegun too with the NGSW program.
Now what would a Russian regular be thinking about his reliable yet worn AK-74 under such circumstances? Hell, with about 30 seconds on YouTube he knows that the American AKs are even better than his is, and those are hobby weapons. Even the most rear echelon fobbit in the US Military has a modern rifle and modern optic suite. They look like they all mean business.
Big Russian think goes and gives them a modern AK to overmatch those M4A1’s. Want rails. Got rails. Want optics. Can have optics! …theoretically speaking of course.
I remember a time in ’08 when we had M16A4’s with nothing on them, so that isn’t unheard of here. But I believe by ’09 and definitely by ’10 we had ACOGs, PEQs, the whole kit. Even grip pods, which lost coolness fast but were cool in the moment.
The AK-12 I think was targeted propaganda mostly at their own troops, convincing them that the Russian state cared about a modern military machine and making sure the troops had the best equipment. It also captivated the world’s small arms circles, we always want to know more about the things we have limited access too. While modernizing the AK-74 would have been the best move, it would have looked like copying the Americans. The ‘new’ rifle was the pitch. Russian small arms weren’t copying or keeping up, they were innovating! The rifle is NEW, no matter how much it isn’t.
But Russia forgot the secret ingredient. They didn’t back their bullshit. It wouldn’t have mattered one bit if the AK-12 hadn’t actually been much better than an railed out AK-74, it just needed to run well and be a tightly put together rifle. It wouldn’t have mattered if the optics being fielded were all just a decent commercial grade red dot, but they needed those optics on all the rifles.
Instead we caught guys with dusted off WWII Mosins, like there would be some American Scout Sniper team that needed to dust off an old scoped M1903A4 because every MK22, M24 variant, M40 variant, MK13, and M110A1, and M110 were all gone. Embarrassing.
While off-the-rack .22 semi-auto handguns aren’t famous for reliability in general, a lot of people have been reporting issues with the new Sig P322. Some people seem to have no trouble, while others have found it to be a Smucker’s-level jam factory. This is unfortunately a thing many people tend to expect from this class of gun, but when Chris Baker over at lucky gunner posted his unfavorable personal experience with one example P322, his commenters had a suggestion for him.
“Try the Taurus TX22 Competition, it’s just as good… er!” -commenters, probably
Regardless of what they actually said, Chris heard their suggestions and took them up on it, despite his own negative impression of Taurus guns. Shocking the gun cognoscenti across the world, it ran like a top. Or rather, it ran like a top exclusively with CCI MiniMags and choked on everything else.
Neither of these offerings performed well, unless you account heavily for the general unreliability of the genre and even then, the Taurus made the Sig look like a paperweight, which is a feat all its own. Many semi-auto .22s have a “favorite” ammo, but being limited exclusively to a high end brand with equally high pricing sort of defeats the point of the $100 discount buying the Taurus over the Sig gets you, but if you send a Sig back to get worked on or replaced, it can be assumed you’re more likely to have a successful experience.
And the quote above typifies the hand wringing and bullet sweating, how could the Supreme Court put nonsensical prohibitive like AWBs and mag bans on countdown clock? Don’t they know that no credible study in existence supports their efficacy?
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruling expanding gun rights threatens to upend firearms restrictions across the country as activists wage court battles over everything from bans on AR-15-style guns to age limits.
The decision handed down in June already has led one judge to temporarily block a Colorado town from enforcing a ban on the sale and possession of certain semi-automatic weapons.
As it should, the Supreme Court additionally told all the lower courts to go check their homework as they affirmed, and as anyone with a lick of objective sense could confirm, the lower courts had largely been doing it wrong and merely aligning with the political whim of the region, not the constitutional rights of the American people, and waiting for SCOTUS to decide it hoping to pass the responsibility from their purview on so contentious as issue as ruling for firearm rights against local political pressures.
The first major gun decision in more than a decade, the ruling could dramatically reshape gun laws in the U.S. even as a series of horrific mass shootings pushes the issue back into the headlines.
Because we should always shape our policy out of fear and revulsion of terrorists actions, especially by implementing meaningless feelgood security measures that will no way manner significantly hinder the next motivated killer who possess a plethora of methods of injury.
Why? Because the woman used a car. The footage is horrific. She used a weapon of mass destruction (a Mercedes Coup, at high speed) to obliterate a family of three, their unborn child, and two women in a second vehicle.
Thanks to modern vehicle design, this was not suicide. The driver was only moderately injured. We scapegoat a single method of violence since it is the most logical, and “we” (as a group of concerned people who don’t like needless deaths) don’t “like” that weapons are a necessary part of life.
Gun control is nothing more than the thoughts and prayers Democrats continuously accuse others of, hoping that no one will be violent anymore if we just take the right thing away. It remains asinine logic when broken down, since we are neither removing means or motive, just a little bit of one of the more convenient means… sometimes… maybe… why would violence change meaningfully? We did nothing to address any of the motives.
“The gun rights movement has been given a weapon of mass destruction, and it will annihilate approximately 75% of the gun laws eventually,” said Evan Nappen, a New Jersey gun rights attorney.
The court battles come as the Biden administration and police departments across the U.S. struggle to combat a surge in violent crime and mass shootings, including several high-profile killings carried out by suspects who purchased their guns legally.
Okay, then what’s your new brilliant strategem of making murder more illegaler?
And given the sheer number of cases now working through the courts, a lot more time will be spent in courtrooms no matter who wins.
This is literally why we have courts, they’re doing their jobs.
“We will see a lot of tax dollars and government resources that should be used to stop gun crime being used to defend gun laws that are lifesaving and wildly popular,” said Jonathan Lowry, chief counsel and vice president at Brady, the gun control group.
Wildly popular? Popularity doesnotequal efficacy. Maybe you should right the laws so they pass constitutional muster?
Articulate in any manner beyond that you think and pray that this rule is helping, that the rule is actually helping and not harming the continents who are under it. Please.
Congress broke through years of deadlock to pass a modest gun violence prevention package weeks ago,
Because legislatively it was as close to a perfectly safe nothing burger, padded by tons of funding for school security as toppings, that they could pass to ‘do something’ about shootings.
and the House voted to renew a ban on high-powered semi-automatic weapons,
Which they know will almost certainly die in the Senate, where they need it to die so they don’t get taken to the woodshed in the next election but can collect all the ‘we tried!’ dollars.
though that effort is likely doomed in the Senate as Republicans push back on firearms restrictions and say recent spikes in gun violence should be met with a stepped-up police response.
Exactly as Democrats need them to do for best political outcomes in the midterms. They need the political victory of trying, not the consequences of passing a new assault weapon ban, which back in 1994 had disastrous results in the following election cycle.
Also a stepped up police response, with better training and community interaction, is absolutely a solid step. But then we look at places like Uvalde and realize the police have their limits too and just printing more badges to put on the street is about as good at solving the long term issues as printing money and giving it out in stimulus checks was to staving off poverty, eviction and foreclosure, or even paying utilities.
I would love to see a breakdown of the dollars that went to sustainment vs bought someone a luxury on the stimi-bucks.
The Supreme Court decision struck down a New York law requiring people to demonstrate a particular need to get a license to carry a concealed gun in public, saying it violates Second Amendment rights. Several other states including California, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey and Rhode Island have similar laws expected to be directly impacted by the ruling.
Many of those AGs have already ceased enforcing their ‘demonstrable cause’ clauses in their law and are pushing towards the Shall Issue standard, but they will do so kicking and screaming the whole time. Meanwhile half the nation’s states have implemented constitutional carry with no torrents of plasma, water, salt, and protein of a red color washing over the streets.
Crime in those places pretty much stayed as local policy and cultural momentum had indicated.
Oh but there was a mass shooting stopped cold by a lone constitutional carrier where nearly 400 cops in Uvalde, who had a shot on the attacker outside the school, couldn’t do be bothered to rush the shooter there for over an hour.
In Massachusetts, for example, police chiefs can no longer deny or impose restrictions on licenses just because the applicant doesn’t have a “good reason” to carry a gun.
Good, bureaucrats shouldn’t have that authority. Ever. Over anything.
You should never have to justify exercise of your right to the state, they should have to justify its every denial in scrupulous detail.
New York quickly passed a new concealed-weapon law, but Republicans there predict it will also end up being overturned.
As that overly invasive piece of garbage masquerading as ‘shall issue’ should. The Governor and the anti-gun controlled city run legislature are just stalling for time to get their way as long as they can. It’s literally a temper tantrum against the Supreme Court for daring to protect the rights of New Yorkers to carry a firearm for so spurious a reason as their own personal protection.
Remember when New York had to panic change a law at the 11th hour over New York City residents (18 million metro residents) having to use one of only 5 gun ranges because traveling outside the city gun to ranges was illegal. Because reasons and safety.
Yes, it was that dumb.
In its New York ruling, the high court’s conservative majority also changed a test lower courts had used for evaluating challenges to gun laws.
Judges should no longer consider whether the law serves public interests like enhancing public safety, the opinion authored by Justice Clarence Thomas said. Instead, they should only weigh whether the law is “consistent with the Second Amendment’s text and historical understanding.”
So Justice Thomas said you can’t subjectively decide that a constitutionalright can be suborned by a nebulous concept like ‘public safety’ or ‘the greater good’
That type of legal standard opens a whole mess of subjective issues when it comes to rights that don’t need to be considered as deeply when it comes to some like placing a traffic light or a stop sign or changing the speed limit.
By only needing to declare that something is ‘supposed’ to enhance public safety, and with no burden of proof showing that it meaningfully does while doing little to no harm, that is no standard by which to judge infringing a constitutional right, especially one specifically stating you can’t do that. A judge, one who will likely be influenced by regional political norms, merely has to shrug and go, “It makes sense when they put it like that, the name even says S.A.F.E. in it.” and a law will stand so long as there were no egregious and obvious oversteps by the state thus far.
“Basically, the Supreme Court has given an invitation for the gun lobby to file lawsuits against virtually every gun law in America,” Lowry said.
They were already doing that because most of the laws are utter rubbish and serve no better purpose than generating paperwork for someone to be paid to be annoyed over.
The Supreme Court has ordered lower courts to take another look at several other cases under the court’s new test. Among them: laws in California and New Jersey that limit the amount of ammunition a gun magazine can hold and a 2013 ban on “assault weapons” in Maryland.
Hahaha!
Where is your ‘greater good’ card now? The ‘serves a public interest’ was the ultimate Uno Skip card in the lower court pockets. If a case looked to be too much of a nuisance and/or upsetting the local political establishment by telling them this was actually infringement the whole time seemed unwise, saying the law seemed to serve a ‘greater public interest’ and then it became the next court’s problem when the case began its next leg in litigation.
Gun rights groups are also challenging similar bans in California, New York, New Jersey and Delaware.
“The rifles at issue in this case are the sorts of bearable arms in common use for lawful purposes that responsible and peaceable people across the United States possess by the millions. And they are, moreover, exactly what they would bring to service in militia duty, should such be necessary,” a New Jersey lawsuit brought in June by the Firearms Policy Coalition says, referencing the language of the Second Amendment.
The ruling also has come up in challenges to restrictions on gun possession for 18- to 20-year-olds in Texas and Pennsylvania. And it has been cited in a case challenging a federal ban on gun possession for people convicted of nonviolent crimes punishable by more than a year behind bars, as well as a prohibition on concealed guns on the subway in Washington, D.C.
All of these legal situations have been roundly ignored by as many courts and politicians as can be counted, because ‘guns bad’, so the actual individual negative impacts of laws on the lives of the constituency got swept under the ‘greater good’ and ‘public interest’ rugs where as long as they possessed that label they couldn’t be effectively challenged on their merits and detractive effects.
In addition, a gun rights group is suing Colorado over the state’s 2013 ban on magazines that hold more than 15 rounds, saying the high court ruling reinforces the group’s argument that it infringes on Second Amendment rights. And the ruling has public defenders in New York City asking judges to drop gun possession cases.
Not all those lawsuits will necessarily be successful. The Texas attorney general, for example, argues the Supreme Court ruling doesn’t affect the state’s age limit law, and more state and local governments can certainly defend their gun laws as being in line with U.S. history.
Good luck, team. Any law not having to do with misconduct and penalty for misconduct is likely to be under risk, as they should be.
Adam Skaggs, chief counsel and policy director at the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, predicted that when the dust settles, only laws “along the margins” will eventually be struck down.
Assault Weapon Bans, hollow point ammunition bans, magazine capacity bans, excessive waiting periods, extra taxes and licensure schemes, all of those “along the margins” since they do not deal within criminal misconduct and punishment.
“Most judges are going to see these for what they are, which is overreaching and lacking in any merit,” he said.
Oh how right you are, Adam. Most gun control schemes outside of the don’t harm or threaten people with a gun (which funny enough is also covered under the broader don’t harm or threaten people, period) laws are of no value to society’s safe existence.
Backers of gun restrictions can also look to a concurring opinion from Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
Joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, Kavanaugh stressed that the Second Amendment does allow for a “variety” of gun regulations. He cited the use of background checks and mental health records as part of a licensing process to carry a gun and noted that states can forbid the carrying of firearms in “sensitive places” such as schools and government buildings.
Absolutely, and there are even rational arguments that the 2nd Amendment isn’t unlimited on the type of arms. But just because those arguments exist does not mean those are the arguments gun controllers are making. The AR-15 is absolutely the type of armament, along with handguns and shotguns, that the 2nd Amendment explicitly protects. Individually portable arms useful for the defense of yourself and your community.
Now if we posit the 2nd Amendment does not protect your right to buy a M109A6 Paladin Howitzer,
We can certainly have that discussion rationally. There are arguments for and against. It also in no way shape or form means that modern privately owned artillery should be illegal to own, just that it is not an armament explicitly protected by the 2A. It could instead be the explicit duty of the state to provide crew served troop body support weapons and support to militia in time of need.
But it is indisputable that individual arms, anything I do not need a team and intense logistical support to effectively operate, are protected under the 2nd Amendment. I can show up with my 5.56 or 7.62 and a solid supply of ammunition at need.
But the Colorado decision handed down last month, while still early in the process, was a rosy sign for gun rights groups.
U.S. District Court Judge Raymond Moore, who was nominated by President Barack Obama, said he was sympathetic to the town’s goal of preventing mass shootings like the one that killed 10 people at a grocery store in nearby Boulder last year. But Moore said he didn’t know of “historical precedent” for a law banning “a type of weapon that is commonly used by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes,” so the gun rights groups have a strong case against the ordinance.
Also… a total lack of evidence that a firearm or magazine restriction stops mass shootings. Looking at you California.
Encouraged by that decision, Taylor D. Rhodes, the executive director of the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, told The Associated Press that his group was considering going after other gun measures in Colorado, where Democrats hold the majority in the state legislature and the governor’s office.
Referring to the Supreme Court’s ruling, Rhodes said: “The Bruen decision gave us a 4-ton wrecking ball.”
Every gun measure in the US from basically the National Firearm Act on forward should unequivocally be scrutinized again under the objective standards established during Bruen.
That is literally what gun owners want. They want objectivity, they want easy to comprehend and logical reasoning. What they have been treated too in return is anything but, but they’ll give it a title that says ‘This was totally logical, my dudes. We promise. It’s even in the title…’ and expected to push past scrutiny by calling it opposition and coast on emotion in the place of analysis.
In the absence of good information saying their policy works they default to feeling like it shouldwork, because it is in the title and such.
And we’re right back to gun control being thoughts and prayers.
As some may have caught, the internet (and thus us too) were intrigued when videos and images began to circulate of a new P365 model.
You may have also noticed that post had disappeared.
That was at Sig’s request. When someone or some group who is working hard on something says, “Shhh! Please, it isn’t done yet.” that is a request I can respect.
Well, it’s done now and Sig has tossed the competitive gauntlet firmly down at the feet of the Glock 43x/48+Shield Mag combo with the latest 365 iteration.
SIG SAUER Introduces P365-XMACRO: Bringing Even More to Everyday Carry
NEWINGTON, N.H., (August 11, 2022) – SIG SAUER is pleased to introduce the P365-XMACRO bringing more capacity, more shootability, and more concealability to everyday carry; the P365-XMACRO packs an unprecedented 17+1 round standard capacity into the iconic 1” slim profile of the P365.
“When the P365 was introduced, it reimagined the possibilities of everyday carry, and the P365- XMACRO continues this tradition delivering more on everything that made the P365 the number one selling, and most award-winning gun in America,” said Tom Taylor, Chief Marketing Officer and Executive Vice President, Commercial Sales, SIG SAUER, Inc. “The innovative magazine design of the P365-XMACRO delivers on capacity while maintaining the slim design, making it more comfortable and more concealable than any other 17+1-round pistol on the market. The integrated compensator of the P365-XMACRO reduces muzzle flip making follow-up shots faster and easier to stay on target shot after shot for even more accuracy. It is very simple, like the name suggests, with the P365-XMACRO you get more of everything you want in an everyday carry pistol, and you no longer need to compromise your capacity for concealability or shootability.”
The P365-XMACRO is a striker-fired, 9mm, polymer frame pistol featuring the all-new Macro-Compact Grip Module with a standard 1913 accessory rail, an integrally compensated P365 XSERIES optics-ready slide with XRAY3 day/night sights, and flat trigger. The pistol ships with interchangeable small, medium, and large backstraps and (2) two 17-round steel magazines. The P365-XMACRO is optimized for use with the SIG SAUER Electro-Optics FOXTROT1 rail mounted flashlight and ROMEOZero Elite Micro Red Dot sight.
The P365-XMACRO is now shipping and available at retailers. To learn more about the P365-XMACRO or watch the product video with Phil Strader, Director, Product Management visit sigsauer.com.
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Quick takeaways
For those who don’t want to look it up, it’s pretty much the same size as the G48, a smidge taller and slide a scoshe shorter (very scientific measurements), with +2 rounds (over shield magazines, +7 over factory), with an integral comped slide instead of a 4″ barrel. It’s rocking the 3.1″ barrel of the P365/P365X, hence X Macro and not XL Macro.
I suspect XL length slide/barrel will follow in a timely manner for those needing that extra inch.
Size queens, the lot of us.
This is the first 365 we’ve seen with an adjustable frame size via inserts, previous iterations have been full frame replacements, where popular options like the Wilson Combat frames popped up. I like the WC personally since it has just a little more meat on it for we of long fingers. When I get to play with this, I’m guessing the large insert will do the same thing and I am more excited about that feature than any of the rest. The original 365 grips needed just a bit more material for comfort, now I can put it there instead of waiting on WC to make a thicc grip.
Does the X Macro REVOLUTIONIZE CONCEALED CARRY!?
Nope. We’ve been able to conceal 17 rounds on us in reasonable comfort since we could put a +2 base pad onto a Glock 19 magazine, and striker guns are striker guns these days.
Golden Age of 9mm’s, friends.
What I suspect we have is the next iteration in comfort at 17 rounds. It’s the t-shirt made of the good blend, the shoe or boot that has that insert that is just that extra bit more ideal, or for my Marines in the audience who remember, the desert cammies when they reach that pajama soft stage and become absurdly comfortable to wear.
This is that M&P, P30, Glock 19X/45, or P320 Carry rendered for summer time, comfortable cloths, or formal wear and right now Sig is the one doing it. We’re being told we don’t have to drop capacity or performance to increase carry comfort. We’ve come very nicely through the Micro-9 evolutionary track and are back to duty gun capacities without duty gun bulk.
The NYPD’s Stakeout Unit was formed during a tumultuous time in the late 1960s in New York City where the risk and danger of violent robberies was a very real concern. Small cash businesses like convenience stores, mom-and-pop grocery stores, Western Union offices, motels, etc. were often easy targets that violent criminals liked to exploit—sometimes repeatedly.
The NYPD SOU (Stakeout Unit) would screen through incident reports of these at-risk businesses and then choose to intervene in some of the riskier profiles. SOU officers would visit these businesses in person and evaluate them. If deemed necessary, a team of SOU officers would remain during business hours and conceal themselves on the premises. These teams kept watch over customers and the business ready for anything to happen. The minute any sign of a violent robbery materialized, these well armed officers were ready to jump into action and stop it by any means necessary. Due to the fact that the SOU’s direct assignment was confrontation with armed felons, total control of the situation was critical to the SOU in order to avoid situations that deteriorated and began involving innocent bystanders or hostages. It was imperative to never leave that up to chance. For this reason, the officers in the SOU teams were typically better acquainted with their personal weapons and tactics than regular beat cops of the era.
HANDGUNS
From the years spanning 1928 through 1993, the standard issue handgun for New York Police Department Officers was a six shot, fixed sight, four inch barreled, double action revolver chambered in .38 Special. According to Jim Cirillo, a well known member of the SOU, police cadets had the choice to purchase either a Smith and Wesson “Military And Police” (known as the Model 10 after the year 1957) or a Colt “Official Police” revolver upon completion of the police academy.
Cirillo himself was known to carry two Model 10s, a standard and a bull barreled model, as he preferred the smoothness of Smith and Wesson action as opposed to the Colt’s. Each SOU officer was required to carry either of these official service sidearms while on stakeout assignment. Given the time period, context, and mission requirements for these officers, they actually typically carried more than one handgun. The tongue-in-cheek term, “New York Reload” coined by Mr. Massad Ayoob, was attributed to the fact that when he once asked Cirillo about his preferred revolver reloading technique, Cirillo stated that he didn’t worry too much about it—he just switched to different guns as he needed them.
A 4″ S&W Model 10 chambered for .38 Special with the bull barrel as preferred by both Allard and Cirillo. image credit: IMFDB
Cirillo personally tuned both of his service revolvers and he had an amateur gunsmith (another SOU teammate) help modify the factory sights to make them more useful and quicker on the target. The NYPD regulation cartridge at the time was a .38 Special loaded with a lead round nose 158 grain bullet that had a muzzle velocity of 700 fps (feet per second) which was held with disdain by Cirillo. He thought it to be inadequate and instead opted to load his revolvers with custom loaded .38 Special Super-Vel cartridges with a 110 grain hollow point bullet traveling at 1,125 fps. In spite of his extensive hands-on experiences with the terminal effects of .38 Special ammunition, his choice of alternative cartridges was something that caused a sore spot with some of his department superiors. It wasn’t until the year 1972 that the NYPD started issuing service cartridges with a semi-wadcutter bullet profile and finally replaced the older LRN (lead round nose) bullet. The SOU was the first police unit to field this ammunition and Cirillo did consider it to be a step in the right direction.
NYPD Officers arresting suspect with Model 10 revolver in hand. image credit: unknown
Backing those two Smith and Wesson service revolvers was a six shot snub nosed Colt Cobra revolver which he preferred over the S&W J-frame due to the fact that the Colt holds an extra cartridge. Both Model 10 service revolvers were carried openly on belt holsters on either side of his hips “like a cowboy.” The Colt Cobra sat in a front pocket and had a shroud over the exposed hammer to avoid any snagging on the draw. Cirillo had a preference for loading this particular revolver with wadcutter cartridges, as he believed they offered better terminal performance from shorter barrels. For some time Cirillo also carried a Walther PPK blowback semi auto sub compact pistol chambered in .32 Auto in a “crotch holster” (sic) as a measure of last resort. He claims it never saw much action besides the time he shot a rat at a gun range. Upon the realization of this Walther’s collector value, he cleaned it up and sold it.
A Colt Cobra snub nosed revolver (notice the absence of the hammer shroud). This is the version SOU officers would have had during the years the unit was active. image credit: Gunsamerica
Though all SOU officers were required to carry their official service revolver on duty, they had no such rules against carrying multiple handguns of other types. In fact, many SOU officers carried alternatives such as Browning Hi-Powers or various types of 1911s. These officers’ weapons had to be approved by Bill Allard who was the unit’s T&E officer (and Cirillo’s main partner). Allard held the power to approve or deny gear.
Allard himself always took his personal Camp Perry built Colt National Match .45 Auto 1911 pistol to every stakeout mission he was part of. The National Match pistol is a customization of a military 1911 pistol by military gunsmiths who modified them with target sights and match barrels in order to wring out match grade accuracy for use in accuracy intensive Camp Perry pistol matches. Allard claimed that he personally won one such high level pistol match with his particular NM 1911 pistol. That specific gun was one of three that he personally evaluated at Camp Perry on the fifty yard line and then purchased in 1967—the last year these handguns were available for sale. Allard carried the pistol the same way it left the gunsmith’s bench and only lubricated it and maintained it as necessary. He carried his Colt National Match 1911 pistol with three extra magazines, all loaded with 200 grain .45 Auto Norma hollow points—these were either his own handloads or factory ammunition. Concerning handgun ammunition choices, Allard and Cirillo had differing opinions; Cirillo preferred a quick moving .38 caliber bullet, and Allard preferred a slower but heavier .45 caliber bullet because he thought these offered better penetration potential in order to punch through bone and reach fight stopping vital organs. With regards to the mandatory NYPD issue service revolver, Allard preferred the Smith and Wesson Model 10 with a bull barrel as he thought it had “fantastic” overall balance. His backup snub nosed revolver was a Colt Detective Special for no other reason than that’s what the police department had available at the time of his purchase.
Original Camp Perry Colt National Match 1911 from the mid 1960s, and similar to Bill Allard’s personal pistol. This specimen which started life as a 1944 M1911 military pistol was selected for NM upgrades. It recently sold for $7,050 at auction in May 2022. image credit: Rock Island Auctions
LONG GUNS
The SOU used both twelve gauge pump action shotguns and lightweight M1 Carbines to great effect as workhorses on stakeout missions. It should be noted that in addition to shotguns or M1 Carbines the SOU also used the Smith and Wesson Model 76 sub machine gun—a clone of the famous “Swedish K” SMG, but according to Cirillo these guns were “unreliable pieces of shit.”
NYPD Officer with department issued 20″ Ithaca Model 37 Police shotgun. image credit: unknown
As far as American pump action shotguns are concerned, the Ithaca Model 37 shotgun was one of the most prominent 20th century shotgun designs that both fell flying game and interdicted criminals. Designed by John Moses Browning, this shotgun was possibly the world’s first ambidextrous pump action shotgun; due to its unique design, shotshells were both ejected and loaded from the bottom of its receiver. The left and right sides of this shotgun’s receiver are slick. Like some of Browning’s other shotgun designs, the Ithaca Model 37 has no trigger disconnector meaning that a shooter can fire all loaded shotshells continuously by cycling the action while simultaneously keeping the trigger depressed. Along with many other police departments during this time period, the Ithaca Model 37 was the standard issue for the NYPD as well. NYPD shotguns had twenty inch barrels and four round tubular magazines, which allowed the officers to carry up to five shotgun cartridges in the gun at a time. Cirillo mentions, “We had full length, and we had cut-downs—we loved the cut-downs because we were in tight quarters in some of the places we were hidden. We cut ‘em right down to the magazine tube, and then we welded a lanyard holder, because the muzzle was right there where you ended up pumping. So we had these nylon or canvas heavy webbing straps attached to ferrules so that you put your hand in there, you could keep your hand open and just slide it in like a karate chop, and you could fire this gun as fast as you could pull the trigger.”
NYPD Robbery Unit Officer circa 1980 with aforementioned “cut down” 13″ Ithaca Model 37 as described above by Jim Cirillo. image credit: Twitter user @QuintusCurtius
Though the twelve gauge buckshot ammunition available in the late 1960s and early 1970s was unsophisticated in comparison to modern tactical buckshot, the SOU being an adaptable unit still used shotguns to their advantage. Allard mentioned having a rule where buckshot was to be fired within distances of up to fifteen yards, and for anything past that, one ounce slugs were preferred. This was something he did to account for the possible spread of errant pellets. According to Cirillo, the SOP (standard operating procedure) for nighttime stakeout duty was to load a shotgun with slugs last in order to shoot them first inside a store where overhead lighting could aid in better aiming. They reasoned that if the use of force encounter spilled out onto the streets, they could then use buckshot to send a pattern to fleeing suspects or getaway vehicles. The daytime stakeout SOP for shotgun loading was the complete opposite—to send a column of shot against armed robbers inside the confines of the store and use slugs once the incident moved onto the daytime streets to mitigate pellet spread (as there would be more bystanders on daytime streets). SOU officers also briefly fielded sawn-off side-by-side shotguns favored by detectives of this time period. They did not last long on stakeout duty as SOU officers thought the low shotshell capacity to be a hindrance.
NYPD Officers armed with a department issued Model 37 shotgun. The officers’ service revolvers can be seen in their belt holsters. image credit: unknown
The M1 Carbine is a light weight, magazine fed semi automatic rifle designed on the eve of the Second World War and was issued to American troops who needed a weapon more capable than a handgun but did not need an infantry rifle or heavy sub machine gun. It was intended for men who manned artillery guns or carried communications equipment, but its light weight, compact size, and relatively high capacity (compared to standard infantry rifles of the day) also lent itself well for unconventional duties. It saw service up through the jungles of Vietnam until the more modern CAR-15 type rifle eventually superseded it. .30 Carbine ammunition was designed with a straight walled rimless casing that is reminiscent of a .357 Magnum casing without its rim. Projectiles were shaped like other handgun bullets as opposed to longer and heavier full size .30 caliber sptizer rifle bullets. Out of their eighteen inch barrels, these carbines typically pushed those 110 grain FMJ bullets at just a hair under 2000 fps. According to Cirillo, the M1 Carbine was an all around SOU favorite. He recounted, “They were great for stakeouts because we were in tight quarters, behind walls and such. We hand full-length ones and some that were cut down. When we confiscated an M1 Carbine on a case, it went to the range and our gunsmith would cut down the barrel to just about 12 inches and put on a folding stock and pistol grip. You know what? The carbine was one of our best stoppers. Our gunsmith was real good; he was able to fix those magazines so they reliably fed hollow point 110 grain Winchester ammo, an expanding bullet. You figure you’re shooting a hollow point bullet that’s going between 1,800 and 1,900 feet per second. That velocity gave us good hydrostatic shock. When that bullet opened up and folded back, it was superior to our handgun for sure. It was fast to shoot, light recoil, and you had 15 rounds. It turned out that anybody that was hit with it, even if they weren’t hit in the vitals, got dropped. We had one guy [who] (sic) was hit in the thigh, and he ran outside, his leg broke, and he fell. Evidently the tissue was so torn up, or the bone might have been fragmented, or touched; his leg broke, he had a compound fracture, he went down on the ground.” All M1 Carbines owned by the NYPD at the time were semi automatic only.
United States Marine armed with M1 Carbine on the island of Guam. July 1944. Lt. Paul Dorsey. (Navy) Exact Date Shot Unknown NARA FILE #: 080-G-475159 WAR & CONFLICT BOOK #: 1194
THOUGHTS
These days, hyper-reliable pistols with magazines that hold nearly twenty cartridges spoil the gun owning public. Moreover, the proliferation of slide mounted electronic red dot sights on duty and carry pistols has helped the modern shooter to wring out even more capability from their handguns. If one compares and contrasts the pistol found in the holster of the contemporary “switched on” shooter against those in Cirillo’s or Allard’s holster, it can certainly evoke a feeling of respect and appreciation for the skill at arms those officers and their SOU brethren had. These SOU officer all developed a general sense of what to expect on a stakeouts in addition to a fundamental understanding of what they could accomplish or could not accomplish with their guns and gear. Logically, they implemented creative adaptations to keep any unfair advantage. An obvious example is the fact that practically all SOU officers carried more than one handgun as switching to another sidearm would always be quicker than reloading any of their relatively low capacity weapons. Police shooting standards in those days also placed a very high premium on accuracy and the understanding that a revolver held only six rounds—making every shot count was how business was conducted. The NYPD SOU was active from 1968 through 1973. With the exception of the M1 Carbine (frankly one of their most “modern” weapons), the designs of the pistols and shotguns fielded by SOU officers had not fundamentally changed since the turn of the 20th century when many of these firearms were first introduced and developed. M&P (or Model 10) revolvers and the .38 Special cartridges were a product of the turn of the century, as the original Model 1899 Hand Ejector revolver isn’t that different from its descendants. The .38 Special cartridge in fact dates back to 1898 and was originally loaded with black powder. The same is true of Bill Allard’s National Match 1911 pistol—other than the target sights and extra care from a gunsmith, Allard’s gun design had not changed since the year the US Military adopted Browning’s .45 Auto pistol, 1911. In the same vein, by the time the SOU was formed in 1968, Ithaca had already manufactured its one millionth Model 37 shotgun at its upstate New York factory.
Smith and Wesson “Military And Police” Model 1899 Hand Ejector revolver from the turn of the 19th century, the basis of the SOUs Model 10 Service Revolvers. Shown are .38 Special cartridges not unlike the ones issues to NYPD patrolmen until the early 1970s. image credit: Wikipedia
It wasn’t just that men like Allard and Cirillo were “gun nuts” that spent ample time shooting and tinkering outside of their job duties. While both considered their frequent participation in shooting matches to be crucial for their development as shooters, it also wasn’t just that either. The reality is that the men of the SOU were able to prevail during these armed violent encounters due to their intimate familiarity with interpersonal violence. It was a phenomenon they experienced almost quite literally every time they went to work. As a result, the comfort and familiarity of knowing themselves in the heat of danger allowed these men to remain cool and collected so that thinking with a gun in their hand was second nature allowing them to solve the task at hand.
Author’s Note: Special thanks to CM for loaning me his copy of “Tales Of The Stakeout Squad” by Paul Kirchner. This book is out of print and relatively expensive to purchase nowadays. Additional gratitude goes toward DB for his explanation of background context to policing tactics of the era.
The cover of “Tales Of The Stakeout Squad” alongside my personal vintage snub nose revolver, currently the only snub nose gun I own.
Sometime back, I wrote an article detailing the historical and always cool Mk22 Mod 0 Hush Puppy pistol designed for Naval Special Warfare units. This little pistol had a unique feature that locked the slide to eliminate the noise of the slide slamming back and forth when fired suppressed. It’s an interesting and what I thought was a novel design. Turns out I was wrong; the Chinese had their own version of the Hush Puppy known as the Type 64 Silenced pistol.
The Type 64 Silenced pistol isn’t to be confused with the standard Type 64 pistol, or the Type 64 SMG, or the Type 64 tank, or Type 64 rifle, or Type 64 Anti-tank missile. Turns out Type 64 is a pretty broad term.
courtesy Brownells
Much like the Hushpuppy, the Type 64 Silenced pistol was also used in Vietnam. It’s not unheard of for Russian and Chinese materials to show up in the hands of North Vietnamese soldiers. Our confirmation of a Type 64 Silenced pistol being in Vietnam comes from a DIA Intelligence report from 1868 that states:
One such weapon, probably of Chinese Communist manufacture, has a report about one-fourth as loud as that of an unsilenced .22-cal pistol firing long rifle ammunition and half as noisy as the snapping of a 7.62-mm RPD light machine gun bolt. The weapon features an integral silencer and uses a special 7.65-mm cartridge. A pushbutton selector on the slide permits manual or semiautomatic operation; maximum silencing, however, occurs during manual firing.
Breaking Down the Type 64 Silenced Pistol
The Type 64 Silenced Pistol is a standard blowback-operated handgun utilizing a rotating bolt with locking lugs. Those locking lugs allow the user to flip a toggle to lock the weapon’s slide in position. When done so, the weapon is a single-shot, manually operated firearm. Like the Hush Puppy, the manual action mode is the most silent and eliminates the clapping noise of the slide moving back and forth. When the toggle’s flipped again, it functions as a standard semiautomatic pistol.
Unlike the Hush Puppy, the user can manually operate the slide without flipping the toggle off. The toggle sits on the breech block and works like a cross bolt safety. Press it in one direction to lock the slide and in the other direction to operate in semi-auto mode.
Unlike the hush puppy, the Type 64 silenced pistol is an integrally suppressed weapon. This results in a much shorter, more concealable design. The Chinese went with a two-stage suppressor for the Type 64. The first stage is your traditional baffle system, and the second stage sits below the barrel.
The second chamber is split in half, and the top is an expansion chamber. The bottom half is a mesh baffle system in which gas feeds from a port close to the muzzle. This unique design, paired with the unique ammo, makes the weapon very quiet.
The Silenced pistol is a standard communist handgun design from the mid-60s. It has a manual thumb safety, a heel magazine release, a DA/SA action, and uses a 9-round box magazine.
The Type 64 Suppressed Pistol Ammo
There is no point in designing a special gun without special ammo, right? America did the American thing and designed 158 grain subsonic 9mm rounds. China decided to go smaller with a cartridge similar to the .32 ACP. The cartridge is 7.65x17mm, just like the .32 ACP but is a rimless cartridge. The standard 32 ACP has a semi-rim to it.
That being said, it’s not much different than the .32 ACP ballistically. The 74-grain bullet moves at about 740 feet per second. It’s not a man-stopping magnum round by any means, but it’s effective enough for what I assume the gun would be used for. This isn’t a gunfighting pistol, but something likely used for close-range assassinations.
Can I Get One?
Maybe. Believe it or not, there is at least one in the states, and it was brought here by the SIONICS founder, suppressor aficionado, soldier, spy, and a mercenary named Mitch WerBell III. He toured Vietnam with his suppressors selling them to the army. Legend has it that an assassin tried to take him out with a Type 64 Silenced Pistol and failed.
Mitch brought the gun home, and it remained in his collection until after his death. It went up for auction at Rock Island Auctions. It’s likely the only one in the United States available for transfer. In 2020 it sold for 46,000 dollars.
The Chinese Hush Puppy didn’t rip off the Mk 22 Mod 0, but parallel thinking seemingly occurred. It’s a unique design of a seemingly forgotten concept.
Under no pretext is the Portland Socialist Rifle Organization interested in lying down for magazine capacity limits. From what may be an unexpected corner for many, this call to resist anti-gun legislation by petitioning to submit an argument against the bill in the Voter Information Pamphlet that is mailed to all registered voters in the state before every election has gone out.
Despite being oft-conflated with Democrats, Socialists have usually got at least one thing right: Shall Not Be Infringed. Whatever you think of their other policy stances, I think we can probably all appreciate not wanting to be arbitrarily limited to 10 rounds, especially given how unlikely such laws are to genuinely impact anyone but law abiding gun owners.
Is it worth endorsing the SRA to push back against democrats? The enemy of my enemy is my friend, after all. Facing a poorly written law that requires an undefined demonstration of proof a given standard capacity magazine was purchased prior to the law taking effect, and harsh penalties for anyone who cannot, it’s going to be a consideration some Oregon gun owners are going to have to make.
Politics makes strange bedfellows, after all, and resisting unconstitutional laws that negatively impact your right to effective self-preservation is the duty of all Americans who care about such things. Whatever your disposition toward them, they’re fighting for the right cause at the moment, and the ends may justify the means.
[Ed: We are delighted to welcome new author Dr. Bruce Noonan, who acts on his conviction that people deserve to worship in sanctity securely.]
Our institutions, formerly relatively safe, are under attack. Schoolshootings; a recent murder attempt against a sitting Supreme Court Justice; and attacks on places of worship appear in the news in alarming numbers. The disgruntled, the mentally ill, or politically motivated individuals transform into would-be assassins. On June 17, 2022, the U.S. Attorney General asked the F.B.I. to investigate pro-life church attacks as “domestic terrorism”.
In the first six months of 2022 at least four churches have seen 10 innocents killed, multiple injuries, and two active killers who committed suicide following their attacks.:
2/28/22: The Church In Sacramento, Sacramento California
5/15/2022: Geneva Presbyterian Church, Laguna Woods, California
6/3/22: Cornerstone Church, Ames, Iowa
6/17/2022: St. Stephen’s Episcopal Church, Vestavia Hills, Alabama
One killer was subdued by churchgoers and hog-tied with electrical extension cords; another was restrained by an attendee. None of these churches had an armed security team.
I am an NRA Certified Advanced Pistol Instructor and Training Counselor. I had just completed an initial CCW training of the 8-member CMA Church security team in Moses Lake prior to moving to Post Falls, Idaho two years ago.
In Idaho my wife and I searched for a new church home, and finally settled on Real Life Ministries (RLM) in Post Falls. It is a large church serving about 6,000 attendees. There are four services per week: three on Sunday and one Thursday night to facilitate the needs of people working weekends. In addition, there are three other campuses locally: Coeur d’Alene, Hayden, and North Campus (meeting at Spirit Lake, Idaho).
RLM bases its statement of faith purely on scripture. We hold traditional views of gender immutability, marriage, and sanctity of human life. Thus, we have become a target of the secular for being “intolerant”. Besides the Sunday services which average 1,000 in attendance per service, we have nursery and childcare in the main building. Other activities, such as high school or middle school meet one night a week. Weekly youth attendance can range up to 700 in each group.
I was approached by the church staff member in charge of security. He is retired from serving as a sniper and team leader in a police SWAT unit. As a master trainer and expert in tactics, he conducts annual timed firearms qualification testing for all “Safety and Health” team volunteers [hereafter referred to as “Security Team”] who may wish to carry concealed. Additional A.L.I.C.E. Training® (Alert, Lockdown, Inform, Counter, Evacuate), and force-on-force are also offered to team members. Each team member must also be a church member, attend services regularly and participate in a church small group. Each person carrying concealed must also have the Idaho Enhanced Concealed Weapons License. Although not provided by the church, most team members possess individual concealed carry liability insurance through USCCA or U.S. LawShield. I feel right at home scripturally and find the Security Team at the RLM Post Falls campus to be a good fit for my talents.
The Post Falls RLM Security Team currently consists of 58 unpaid volunteer members. Most are current or retired law enforcement, military veterans and retired or reserve military. Health members include 3 active and 1 retired paramedic, 2 EMTs, 4 RNs, and one physician (me). Additional Security Team members include men and women, teachers and an attorney. Almost everyone on the team carries concealed.
Principles for protocols taught to Security Team members are based on the “Four D’s”:
Deter: Post signs declaring the church property as private; lock some doors to prevent unauthorized access; issue verbal warnings about carrying baggage into a service.
Detect: Alarm system in all campus buildings; 168 camera monitoring indoors and out, including blind spots; Capture images of suspicious individuals and vehicles; Watchful Team members fitted with two-way radios; Monitoring the National Crime Statistics Exchange.
Deny Access: When an individual arrives who appears to be intoxicated or on drugs, he or she is intercepted by team members. We DO want all individuals seeking the Lord to have access, so these individuals are approached in a respectful manner, and may be offered a free cup of coffee while politely asking if they are visiting. Backpacks, visible weapons of any kind are not allowed. Signs, belligerence or foul language are not allowed, nor are pets except for working animals.
Anyone on the property who may be part of a demonstration deemed inappropriate or disruptive will be asked to leave. Local police will be called to remove trespassers.
Defend: Hopefully deadly force will not be necessary, but we are prepared. Our primary goal is to prevent injury to the children, senior pastor, and all congregants, volunteers and staff. This may include interceding in an attempted kidnapping of a child, or in a belligerent dispute, domestic or otherwise.
Security Challenges
As an example of an encounter, in 2015 the only armed security at RLM in Post Falls was provided by sworn law enforcement officers who were church members. A distraught individual behaving in a suspicious manner, wandered into church Building 2. He was agitated, and shouted, “You need to get out of here. It’s going to get messy pretty quick!” Alerted by cell phone, our sole security officer present left the 9:45 am church service in Building 1 and helped to escort the children out of building 2 as per protocol.
Meanwhile the suspect drew a handgun and waved it around as people ran for the exits. The officer grabbed his SWAT gear from his patrol car, ready for the arrival of additional SWAT members and a K-9 police dog. After negotiating for two hours, the increasingly hostile suspect exited building 2, swept people with the handgun’s muzzle, and fired two rounds into the ground. He paused near the cross outside as Officer James hurled a flash bang at the suspect and released the K-9 toward him. At this point, the suspect fired his pistol into his own chest. Resuscitation efforts by paramedics failed.
More recently, in December 2020 at the Thursday night service, a tall, aggressive unkempt man walked into the Post Falls RLM church wearing boots, blue jeans and overcoat, carrying a guitar case. A Bowie knife and scabbard was strapped to his side. He was observed to be cornering a single female near the café area in the church lobby. He was approached by security and told he could not take the openly carried knife and case into the sanctuary. He put up an argument but was notified the church was private property and that he would have to leave.
A week later, he appeared at the Coeur d’Alene campus with the same knife, guitar case and a backpack as well. The security team had already been alerted by Post Falls campus security to watch for this individual. When questioned, the individual said he wanted to sit up front by the pastor. Again, he was told he could not have the backpack, knife, or guitar case in the sanctuary. When suggested he put them in his car, he explained he didn’t have a car. He then left briefly, returning a few minutes later. Two security members eventually talked him into surrendering the backpack, knife, and guitar case to be placed in the pastor’s study. However, the guitar case was exceptionally heavy, the pastor opened it only to discover it was filled with firearms and ammunition. The Coeur d’Alene Police were called. They soon discovered the individual was a convicted felon. He was arrested and is currently serving time for illegal firearm possession.
Biblical Justification
At this point, you may be wondering if the use of deadly force by church volunteers could be justified biblically. In his excellent book, Pistol in the Pulpit, Pastor Tim Rupp, himself a retired police officer, states:
“To be frank, nowhere does the Bible say explicitly, ‘A local church shall have an armed security team.’ Neither does the Bible say ‘A local church shall not have an armed security team.’” (p. 17)
Rupp goes on to show examples of God’s principles in allowing His people such as Moses to directing Joshua to take untrained Israelites to fight the professional attacking force of Amalek; Nehemiah praying to God and then assigning guards to protect the workers rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem; God commanding Elisha, a prophet and non-combatant, to kill survivors escaping the Israeli military commanders; and Jesus permitting Peter to carry a sword. Jesus even instructed his disciples to sell their cloaks to purchase swords. Rupp further concludes that “turning the other cheek” refers to responding to insults, not acting impotent in the face of mortal danger.
Medical Assistance
Although I am a retired physician (ophthalmology), I have never been licensed in Idaho. Nevertheless, I am current in BLS and ACLS, and have had training and experience in acute firearm wound care. Health team members on the Security Team are not infrequently called to assist with immediate medical needs of church attendees. After calling 911, the church is 7 to 10 minutes from city paramedics, so immediate assessment and emergent life-saving care is offered until city paramedics arrive. In recent times we have had a heart attack during a service, attended by church medical personnel and smoothly handed off to 911 personnel for transport to the hospital.
On another occasion, a woman suffered a heart attack in the church parking lot. A team paramedic, team nurse, and a non-team cardiac surgeon responded, and 911 was called. Unfortunately, this patient did not survive.
Other medical emergencies have included two individuals with seizures. I attended the first patient, a young female adult having grand mal movements with unintelligible vocal noises during the church service. Her thrashing about in the middle of a row of chairs required she be physically restrained by four men in place to prevent injury. As the seizure lasted 10 minutes, we had to call 911. She recovered just before their arrival. Nevertheless, she was taken to the Emergency Room for observation.
Another seizure happened to one of the in-service camera operators. Our church services are also available by live streaming video. Had it been known that the cameraman had a seizure disorder, he would not have been allowed to use one of the elevated camera platforms. When the seizure struck, he fell off the camera platform. Fortuitously he was caught by a nearby staff member and suffered no injuries. He recovered quickly and was allowed to go home.
Our medical supplies are duplicated at all four RLM campuses. Each has an AED. Some other supplies are listed in the following table.
I generally serve at least 7 hours per week on duty. In addition, the security team is occasionally called upon to help at community outreach events on church property such as the annual Easter egg hunt (5,000 kids!), and the autumn Harvest Festival. I get a great sense of joy serving our Lord Jesus Christ in this activity. I still pray every day that I won’t need to shoot anyone. However, in defense of others, especially children, team members are willing to risk their lives to stop any threat for that noble purpose.
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— Bruce Noonan, MD is a retired ophthalmologist, NRA Benefactor Member and NRA Certified Advanced Pistol Instructor and Training Counselor. He began hunting at age 10. He served as a Navy Flight Surgeon, retiring as a Captain, and shot Expert with the .45 pistol in training.