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The Extar EP-9 Carbine – Budget Done Right

Budget guns come and go, and their quality varies greatly. When I say budget, I mean something that’s well worth your limited funds. When I say cheap, I mean it’s not such a good get and is typically an unreliable option. Whenever a firearm advertises itself as budget-friendly, it’s our job to figure out if it’s a budget firearm or a cheap firearm. The latest from our configuration is the Extar EP-9 Carbine. The Extar family of firearms has been mostly large format, often braced pistols.

They’ve made both .45 ACP and 9mm variants of the pistol, but this is their first rifle. These firearms have been known for their affordability, and that’s largely because Extar cuts out the middleman. They sell directly to the consumer and do so at a great price. Even after this stiff period of inflation, these guns have remained affordable. The EP-9 is predictably a 9mm rifle and uses Glock magazines.

The EP-9 Carbines aren’t quite AR-9s, but they do take a lot of influence from the AR-15 world. They are AR-lite in a number of ways. Their price point of around $500 makes them one of the more interesting and affordable firearms in the budget world.

Inside the EP-9 Carbine

The Extar EP-9 carbine is a bit more than a 16-inch barrel version of their pistol. These are more or less straight blowback firearms with something Extar called a mass delayed blowback system. Extar reengineered the bolt to take into account the extra back pressure the longer barrel places on the system.

The EP-9 Carbine’s mass-delayed blowback system takes what looks like any other blowback bolt and installs a weight on the top of this system. Weight and blowback systems are like peanut butter and jelly, and the two mix well. Without weight, the bolt would open too early. The EP-9’s method is a very simple way to delay the opening of the breech without the need for a super stiff buffer weight.

The weight on the top of the bolt features a small spring that the weight can move back and forth on just slightly. In the gun, I imagine this works a bit like the Ruger Dead Blow blowback system. It’s smart and very simple, and it works and keeps the price point low. The gun splits into two receivers, similar to the AR, but there is only one takedown pin.

The lower receiver looks and acts a bit like a standard AR lower with all the standard AR lower controls. The upper is a bit different. The top portion of the receiver sits a little higher and accommodates a right-side charging handle. The two receivers are made from polymer, which makes them quite interesting. Polymer and PCCs have been an expanding market.

The gun has a minimalist stock from Mission First Tactical and a short M-LOK handguard. It’s thoroughly modern for such an affordable firearm. It’s not super friendly for left-handed shooters, but that’s not a me problem.

To The Range

The gun comes without sights, so you’ll need to add your own. I went with a simple red dot. The gun comes with an Extar-made 18-round Glock magazine, but like most shooters, I have a pile of Glock mags. I was also testing the ETS Gen 2 Glock magazines, so it was a bit of synchronicity to test both at once.

First, let’s talk recoil. It’s not the smoothest system overall, but it’s not the worst, either. It’s better than the majority of AR9s out there but doesn’t reach the same level of a proper delayed system like the radial delayed CMMG systems.

It’s also a third of the price. The recoil isn’t sharp but feels chunky and noticeable. It won’t take you off target, but if you shoot a Bill Drill, you’ll most certainly notice the recoil and group size.

The straight blowback design does equate to a very reliable system. I fed the EP-9 Carbine a mix of 115-, 123-, and 147-grain ammunition and a mix of reman new and steel-cased crap, and it chunked its way through. The same goes for a variety of magazines. I used the Extar and the ETS, as well as the Glock OEM, Amend2, and Magpul magazines. They all went bang every time without issue.

Ringing Steel

In terms of accuracy, the gun performs admirably. I used a 25-yard zero and worked on dropping 9 mm-shaped pills into B-8 targets. Punching the blackout of a B8 at 25 yards wasn’t much of a challenge. When moving back to 50 yards, if I rested the gun and took my time, I could hit a 10-inch gong and keep the thing swinging over and over. From a practical standpoint, it’s going to put lead where you need it.

The accuracy isn’t going to produce a 1-MOA group, but that’s tough for any 9mm carbine to do. The EP-9 can certainly fit most user’s needs and will work well for home defense. The magazine well is beveled and helps make reloads fast. The right-side charging handle makes it easy to release the bolt and get the gun back in action. Throw the mag in, slap the action, and let it fly back into action.

The trigger has a bit of take-up to it and does have a slight plastic-on-plastic feel. It’s admittedly gotten better in short order, and it seems like it needed a little break-in. The weight is light, and the break is crisp. It’s just a bit of the journey that feels a little rough.

Budget or Cheap

I went through a few hundred rounds without complaint. The gun worked brilliantly. It’s got a few rough edges, but every budget gun has rough edges. Is it budget or cheap? The Extar EP-9 falls into the world of budget guns. It’s accurate, reliable, and easy to shoot. Gun writers like me can pick it apart, but in reality, it’s kind of crazy that someone can build a weapon like this and only charge $500.

All it needs is a red dot and an optic, and you have an awesome option for home defense, plinking, or maybe even a budget-level pistol caliber carbine entry in USPSA or PCSL. For the price, Extar has made an impressive rifle.

Do You (Really) Need a New Gun?

The answer is obviously yes, right? Buy that fourth mid-quality AR, slap a Holosun on it, and call it your latest build! I do recognize the difference between my needs and my wants. I’m not discouraging people who want to own firearms, who want to buy another firearm, or even buy a mid-tier AR with a Holosun on top of it. What I would like you to do is learn from my mistakes. My mistake was owning a dozen mid to cheap-tier firearms with an obsession over always adding a new gun and not focusing on three more important investments. Instead of buying another polymer frame, striker-fired handgun, I should have: 

– Invested in higher quality firearms. 
– Invested in higher quality gear. 
– Invested in myself and my ability to effectively utilize my firearms. 

I still love getting a new gun. That new gun smell, that first range trip, the first shots fired, it’s all good fun. However, I caution folks about piling up a wide variety of firearms without first investing some of that cash into quality options. I’m betting more than one person reading this has a dozen guns but never shoots them because ammo is expensive. One cheap Turkish shotgun is worth a case of 5.56, so is it really all that expensive in hindsight? 

The New Gun Checklist 

It’s okay. I’ve been that guy who always prioritized looking at my new gun rather than shooting the dozen I already have. Today, I want to provide you with a practical checklist you should answer before you purchase another firearm. I’ll explain the why behind each item, and hopefully, you can walk away from here with some renewed priorities. 

1 – Do I Own a Quality Holster For My Concealed Carry Firearm? 

I see a ton of people purchase a $500 gun, a $400 optic, and a $200 light and shove it all in a $40 holster from Amazon with a FOMI clip and craptastic design. A quality holster can cost up to $100, but it’s still fairly affordable compared to the purchase of another firearm. Get a good, well-made holster from Safariland, Phlster, Harry’s Holsters, etc. Yeah, it will cost more than $40, but it’s a buy-once-cry-once affair. To be completely honest, $40 is $35 too much for most of those holsters. 

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PHLster makes excellent holsters and concealment systems Photo Credit: PHLster.com

2 – Does My Home Defense Weapon Have a (quality) Weaponlight? 

I say weapon light because so many people use long guns, and using long guns and handheld lights is tough. However, if you are using a handgun and prefer a handheld light, that’s fine as long as you have some sort of illumination to go along with your home defense weapon. A good light ensures you can identify threats from friends, see your sights, and make your shots count inside the home. A quality weapon light from Streamlight costs less than $200.

3 – Do I Have a Non-Lethal Option?

If you carry just a gun, you only have one defensive option, and you’ve purposefully shorted yourself in scenarios where a gun might not be the best option. In intensely crowded environments or situations where you can’t establish a safe backdrop for your shot, nonlethal becomes another defensive option. It’s easier to pepper spray vicious dogs than it is to shoot them in most situations. A can of POM pepper spray costs $13; don’t skimp on it. 

4 – Do I Have Funds to Go To the Range and Practice? 

Before you squeeze the financial trigger on that new gun, ask yourself, when was the last time I practiced with the guns I have? If I buy this new gun, can I purchase 250 rounds and the range time to get a good trigger finger workout? Can I shoot a match this weekend if I buy the new Taurus Deputy? 

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5 – Do I Have a Quality Medical Kit? 

If you can put holes in things, you should be able to treat any holes someone puts in you or in others. A quality medical kit that’s made up of quality components from reputable manufacturers. We aren’t talking about your basic buy-it-at-Walmart first aid kit. We are looking at kits designed to stop the bleed. A high-quality, advanced, premium-grade kit from North American Rescue costs $200. That’s a Gucci-type kit, and it costs less than most guns. 

6 – Have I Taken a Defensive Class? 

Finally, before you buy a new gun, when was the last time you took a defensive-oriented firearm course? These classes can be expensive, and so can the ammo, but you’ll get through a hefty two-day course for about $500. That’s the average price of most quality handguns. If you have never taken a class or haven’t taken one in years, then maybe a new gun isn’t the best way to spend money. 

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Stop, Collaborate, and Listen

I know and understand the siren’s call at the gun store. I get it, but I do think sometimes you gotta resist that call. If not, you might wind up bashed against the rocks. Sometimes, you need to take a look at your other priorities and determine what money goes where. 

ETS Gen 2 Glock Mags – Budget Mags Done Right

Elite Tactical Systems is a magazine company that makes a number of polymer magazines for various platforms. They’ve recently unleashed their Generation 2 series of pistol magazines. As someone always looking for an affordable option, the American-made ETS Magazines have always been of interest to me. I grabbed a couple of the ETS Gen 2 Glock mags from GunMagWarehouse during Black Friday and decided to give them a fair shake.

ETS magazines provide an interesting option for shooters. They make Glock mags, S&W mags, SIG mags, Scorpion mags, MP5 mags, AR mags, and many more at very affordable price points. Their magazines are all polymer, even when the source weapon uses aluminum magazines. ETS Magazines are famous for their transparent design and various colors. They’ve seen varying levels of success and failure.

Personally, I’ve used a series of their extended Glock 17 magazines for years without a problem. They’ve been through numerous PCCs, handguns, and more. On the flip side, the P320 magazines proved to only work in P320 polymer grip frames, and I’ve had issues with their Glcok 43X/48 magazines feeding.

The ETS Gen 2 Improvements

The ETS Gen 2 Glock magazines claim to have made numerous improvements to the design. The most important thing to me was the redesigned external geometry that would help the mags feed in PCCs. That’s what I use 32-round magazines for in the first place. The Gen 1s worked fine in PCCs, but sometimes you’d feel a hiccup as you slammed one home or even a false positive catch in some cases. Other times, they’d fail to fall free from the gun.

Beyond that, ETS claims the magazines have increased feeding reliability due to internal geometry changes, and the Gen 2 magazines use a high-tensile steel sprint and an anti-tilt follower. The improvement supposedly allows for improved feeding of steel and aluminum rounds. I had no feeding issues with my original magazines, but I do remember feeling steel cases stick as I loaded them in the Gen 1 magazines.

Sadly, in the year 2024, it seems like brass-cased ammo is all I can find. Tula costs more than Blazer Brass, and Winchester Forged has disappeared, as have Monarch steel cases. At least locally, for me, they’ve disappeared.

To The Range With the ETS Gen 2 Mags

My father-in-law has a saying I love, “There ain’t nothing left to do but do it, so I did it.” I like to be efficient, so I’ve been testing the new S&W Response and the Extar EP9 Carbine. For almost the entirety of my testing, I used my three ETS Gen 2 Glock mags. With the Extar, I used their stock magazines for a portion, and with the Response, I used the included M&P magazine well for a portion of testing.

Any shooting and testing of guns I do involves lots of live fire, reloads, and malfunction drills. How else do you get a good grip on what the gun can do? It also gave me a good idea of what the magazines can do. My reloads involve letting those magazines hit the dirt, sometimes empty, sometimes partially loaded. Malfunctions involve Snap Caps, and shooting involves…well, lots of shooting.

Between the two guns, I fired a thousand rounds, so every magazine saw something in the neighborhood of 300ish rounds, dozens of drops, and plenty of time in a mag pouch moving up and down the range. They were mostly problem-free. After a few long days on a wet range, one developed an issue where it would fail to feed partially through the magazine. It required a swift hit to work.

By then, the ETS Gen 2 mag was filthy from the nasty blowback action of the guns. I stripped it down and cleaned the spring, follower, and inside of the magazine. I pulled out plenty of carbon and dirt. After that, it had one more failure to feed but has since worked without issue. It’s marked now to keep an eye on it, but after a few drills, it seems to be working fine.

Final Word on the ETS Gen 2 Mags

I’m pleasantly impressed. The ETS Gen 2 mags were inserted and fell free without issue from my PCCs. They were reliable, and most of all, they were cheap. I paid $11 apiece for them. With that said, they aren’t steel-lined like Glock mags, and one of the three had some issues after getting some good use in. I’d regulate them to range and even comp mags. For home defense or carry, I’d stick to OEM magazines.

Machine Gun – The Origin of the Term

Machine gun is a bit of an interesting term. Unlike other firearms, the term seems to be a bit more nebulous. Where does it come from? Who invented it? What exactly does it mean? When I say the term machine gun, what do you picture? A lot of people picture any firearm that fires in any form of full auto. That’s more or less the NFA definition of a machine gun, and this means everything from a Glock 18 to an M60 is a machine gun.

You might also just picture the M60 and similar belt-fed designs. That’s more or less the military definition of the machine gun. Both definitions involve full auto fire, and both are more than acceptable definitions. However, that’s not what the term has always meant; in fact, the term machine gun is a bit silly.

Origins of the Term Machine Guns

The first time the term machine gun was used was by Richard Gatling, inventor of the Gatling gun. The term first appeared in his patent for the Gatling gun. The Gatling gun is a multi-barreled firearm that uses a hand crank to operate. It feeds from a top-loaded hopper-type magazine. The rate of fire was about 200 rounds a minute. It’s a fairly complicated design and relies on mechanical loading and firing; thus, it is called a machine gun. Two hundred rounds per minute is tame by today’s standards. In fact, in the modern era, the Gatling gun isn’t even a machine gun.

By law, a Gatling gun is not an NFA regulated weapon. You can order one and transfer it through your normal FFL; no SOT or tax stamp is necessary. Tippman makes Gatling guns in 9mm and .22LR, and they are considered semi-auto firearms. The crank requires the user to operate movement to fire, and a machine gun, by law, requires a trigger that must be continually pressed to fire. Yet, Gatling guns were called machine guns back in their day. They certainly have the rate of fire of a machine gun.

Before the Gatling Gun

The Gatling gun was arguably the first successful machine gun, but not the first machine gun. As we glance back into the past, the idea of what a machine gun is or isn’t can be defined by the understanding of what a machine is in the first place. If you go back to the 17th century, the Chinese invented a hopper-fed cannon that would be considered a machine gun.

The famed Puckle gun was a cannon design with a rotating cylinder. The cylinder was hand-cranked and users could easily swap the cylinder for a fast reload. The gun wasn’t very successful, but it was a machine gun by the definition of the era. You can dig through the history of rapid-fire weapons, and you’ll find dozens of examples.

Many were fragile, and many couldn’t be reliably mass-produced, but they often used different forms of machinery to operate. This includes spring-loaded magazines, rotating cranks, and various hopper designs, including some that were more or less magazines with spring and gravity-fed designs.

Evolution of the Machine Gun

The one thing that all these various machine guns have in common is their ability to fire rapidly in a sustained manner. The term rapidly really depends on the definition of the term rapidly for the era. If your basic infantry rifle can fire two rounds a minute, then the Puckle gun, which fires at a rate of nine rounds per minute, seems pretty fast.

In the modern era, most infantry MGs and assault rifles fire at the same rate or fire. However, the machine gun can do so at a sustained rate for a longer period of time. The term has most certainly evolved and grown, but in the modern era, it’s rather silly when compared to the complicated mechanical guns like the Gatling gun or the Puckle gun. Believe it or not, the design of the M240 is less complicated than the design of the Gatling gun.

The machine gun of the modern era uses a similar gas-operated system as assault rifles or semi-auto rifles. An AK uses a long-stroke gas piston, and the M240 also uses a long-stroke gas piston system. The differences are rather minor when compared to the differences between a Gatling gun and a single-shot rolling block.

Terms are always nebulous and evolving, and rarely are they all that useful in a vacuum. It’s an interesting evolution of both terminology and firearms.

Thoughts on the 30 Super Carry In 2024

In 2022, a new round hit the ground running, calling itself the 30 Super Carry from Federal. At first glance, I was quite stoked to see the little cartridge. I like the idea of .32 caliber pistol rounds. They seem to be the just-right size for handguns and have an impressive lineage. Introducing a new caliber in 2022 was a risk, but Federal really seemed to be backing it. S&W released two handguns to go alongside the release, and Nighthawk tossed out a custom 1911 for the round as well.

Now that we are two years past the initial launch, I thought it would be interesting to do a pulse check on the cartridge. I started thinking about this in 2023, and I made sure to keep an eye out for the 30 Super Carry guns and ammo I saw in person. At SHOT 2024, I made sure to pay attention to any new guns released in 30 Super Carry. Has the 30 Super Carry lived up to its .32 ACP lineage?

The Promise of the 30 Super Carry

The idea behind the cartridge is simple. What are the benefits of 9mm? It offers excellent capacity, it’s mild in the recoil department, and modern projectiles allow for excellent penetration and expansion. The goal of the 30 SC was to take those features and make them better. The smaller rounds allowed for greater capacity without expanding the magazine. The round would have the same recoil characteristics as the 9mm and the same good penetration and expansion.

Just shrink it a bit to make room for extra rounds. We can’t deny that capacity rules. That’s the reason why the P365 spawned an entire genre of firearms. In P365-sized firearms, the flush-fitting magazine holds ten rounds, and with the 30 Super Carry, you could squeeze 12 rounds into the same space. That’s a pretty big benefit. At SHOT 2022, I fired the Shield Plus in 30 SC, and it felt just like the 9mm.

Gel tests confirmed the expansion and penetration were adequate, and ultimately, it’s proven to be a solid defensive cartridge. So, has the 30 SC taken over the self-defense market?

Sadly, No

I kept track of the number of times I saw 30 SC and firearms in stores. Throughout the entire year and all of my trips, I only saw three instances of 30 SC. Two were at the big box store Academy. They were selling the Federal FMJ ammo, and one of the Academy’s had the Shield Plus in 30 SC. The third time was some 30 SC self-defense ammo at a Bass Pro. I never saw the ammo or guns in local gun stores or at gun shows.

A lack of retail support can make it difficult to get a caliber off the ground. Sure, guys and gals like you and me know about these things because we are invested in the world of firearms. Your average Joe, who is the market you really want to tap, isn’t seeing the cartridge in stores. When I did see the cartridge in stores, the price was $30 for a box of 50. For comparison, 9mm was around $13 a box. At more than double the price, the 30 Super Carry is a tough sell.

Of course, you can order almost anything online, but that leads to even more cost in the form of shipping. Still, it’s considerably more expensive. Everyone and their mom make a 9mm load, which creates a higher level of competition that drives down the price significantly. It’s even easy to find websites with bulk ammo and free shipping when searching for 9mm.

What About Guns

The 30 Super Carry started strong with three guns from two companies. S&W released an EZ model and a Shield Plus option in 30 SC. Nighthawk even provided a 1911 model with an increased capacity. In May of 2023, Hi-Point released the 3095 carbine, which was the first PCC to chamber the cartridge. Since then, well, it’s been crickets.

The Roadblock

The roadblock that keeps me from moving to the 30 Super Carry is my investment in 9mm. I have a ton of ammo, guns, and magazines for the round. I love my P365, and I have tons of holsters, grip modules, optics, and even barrels for the gun. I’d be willing to consider the .30 SC if I could convert my P365 back and forth and still use 9mm to train.

Sadly, the lack of support ensures this isn’t possible. A new cartridge is a tough sale these days, and I think the 30 SC just got introduced at a bad time. Ammo is priced higher than ever before, and the inflation from the original COVID panic purchasing hasn’t really waned.

With that in mind, I do think the 30 Super Carry is a cool idea, but the current lack of availability, price, and general support makes it a tough round to adopt. As much as I hope it succeeds, I’m thinking it’s time in the sun is almost over.

3D Printing The Cheapest Target Stand Out There

Target stands aren’t cheap, and it’s kind of annoying. To me, burying a furring strip is a lot easier than purchasing a target stand. Since most still require you to provide the wood, spending 50 bucks on a bracket just seems annoying for paper and cardboard targets. With that in mind, I started researching how to build the cheapest target stand possible outside of dirt and effort. Something that could be moved and used at different ranges with ease. I stumbled into a fairly simple project and ended up spending less than 10 dollars…kind of. 

The cheapest target stand required a 3D printer. For some, that’s a bit of investment for a target stand. That 50-dollar bracket starts to look a little more appealing. I already had a 3D printer, so it was easy for me. The file came from a creator named Bucky11 on Printables (Printables is a repository for 3D printed everything). Before we get too deep into the cheapest target stand, let’s go over the cost of each item. 

Breaking Down the Cost 

Target Stand – If I did the math right, it would cost me 1.05 cents to produce this target stand. The stand used 23 meters of filament, according to my printer. A 1-kilogram roll of filament cost me 15 bucks. There are roughly 333 meters in a one-kilogram roll. So, if my math is right, 23 is about seven percent of 333, which is roughly 1.05 cents worth of filament. 

Furring Strip – This costs me 1.75 cents for an eight-foot strip. This sits inside the base of the target stand perfectly and allows me to attach a cardboard target to the side. I don’t need all eight feet of strip, so cutting it in half gives me two and saves me even more money. 

Tent Stakes – The bottom of the target stand has two ports for tent stakes. I bought the deluge tent stakes from Walmart for 1.75 apiece. Let’s round up and say four dollars for the tent stakes. 

Target Backer – For this first trip to the range, I cut up an Amazon box so my cardboard was free. It also looks a little cheap, but it held up the B8 I shot without issue. Let’s say I didn’t have that Amazon box. I could purchase a large moving box from Walmart and get four huge sides of cardboard for only 2.10. 

All in all, we are looking at a unit cost of about $8.90. It’s not bad, but the printer and complete roll of filament obviously aren’t free, and the cheapest target stand is only the cheapest if you have those two factors on hand. 

To the Range With the Cheapest Target Stand 

3D printing is a good mix of practice, skill, and luck. Sometimes, things just happen, and prints go awry. My print went almost perfectly til near the end when a few layers slipped. That wasn’t a big deal; I just trimmed a few thin layers of PLA with a pocket knife, and it all worked fine. I hammered the tent stakes into the ground, tossed the furring strip on, and attached the cardboard. 

It was a very windy day, and that cardboard acted like a sail. My range dirt is soft, and it did tug the tent stakes out bit by bit as I shot. I had to readjust a few times, and I cursed the wind. Even so, it provided a rugged and easy-to-use target stand. It held my B8 as I zeroed a rifle red dot and kept it up for the following Bill drills. 

The cheapest target stand was quite a success. If you already have a 3D printer, then I can’t help but recommend Bucky11’s design. It’s simple, rugged, and small enough to fit in your range bag. Overall, the cheapest target stand is a runaway success, and I plan to print a few more to make my El Presidente dreams come true. 

Gunday Brunch 138: Shot Show Recap Pt 2

Hey, welcome back to Part 2! We’re wrapping up our thoughts on the show this week.

A Less-Lethal Thompson — The Peters Riot Cartridge

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Have you ever looked at the Thompson SMG and thought, “Hey, that would be a good straight pull bolt action, less-lethal riot shotgun loaded with Peters Riot cartridges!” No, you haven’t because you’re a normal person who does normal things and would never think that about a submachine gun. That doesn’t mean no one else would! The 1920s and the Thompson went hand in hand. 

While most people can picture the drum-fed Thompson used by gangsters or the M1 model used by soldiers, many may not know that Thompson tried to be everything. Seriously, there was an era where they tried to produce a heavy Thompson as a proto-SAW, a mini Thompson for extremely close quarters, and yes, even a riot gun version of the Thompson. 

The Peters Riot Cartridges 

Well, not so much a riot gun version, but a special riot gun ammo that combined with a special magazine. The ammo was called the Peters Rustless Riot Cartridges, or the Peters Riot Cartridges, to save your breath. These rounds were produced for decades and were first patented in 1925. 

The cartridge was longer than your standard .45 ACP round and required a special magazine. The cartridges were brass cased with a cardboard-like sabot that looked like a pill. This cardboard pill design held 120 pellets of number 8 birdshot. I know what you’re thinking, it’s snake shot! You’re basically right, but they didn’t intend to use it for snakes. 

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The Peters Riot Cartridges were produced for the law enforcement and military realms with a special focus on corrections. Keep in mind that in this era, the words less-lethal or non-lethal and firearms weren’t connected. Neither of those phrases appears on the ammo box. 

The idea appears to be that the Peters Riot cartridge had less lethal potential than a .45 slug. While it is possible to die for a low dose of No. 8 birdshot, it seems like you really gotta be trying to kill someone to do so. The technique at the time called for skipping the shot off the ground and into the rioting crowd. 

A Thompson gunner could simply swap mags and turn his normal SMG into a straight pull bolt action shotgun spraying birdshot. I imagine firing from the hip and working the top-mounted charging handle would be quite easy. The magazine well of the Thompson has more room than necessary for stick mags due to the use of drums, so the longer magazine fits without issue. 

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Who used the Peters Riot Cartridge? 

That’s the million-dollar question. It’s hard to tell if any police or corrections agencies used them. It bears mentioning that someone must have been buying the stuff since it was sold from 1925 to 1950. In 1934, Peters was sold to Remington, and the company continued to produce the round. 

We do know that the U.S. Military purchased some, but not for riot control. The Peters Riot Cartridge was purchased in August of 1943 as the Cartridge Shot, Cal. .45 T26. By October of 43, it was standardized at the M12. Remington was now producing these rounds, and it seems there were some changes. The cartridges were the standard length of a .45 ACP round, and the paper pill now held 7.5 shot. 

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This new Peters riot load was issued to pilots and air personnel and was designed to be loaded into their handguns. It was designed for hunting game. In fact, the cartridge boxes had warnings in English, German, and Japanese not to use the cartridge against enemy troops. Why? Well, it’s not clear. Likely to avoid breaking some odd rule of war. 

It was issued for a limited time before being replaced by the .45 FMJ load. The general reason was that the cardboard was a big failure point in a wartime environment. 

End of the Line 

The Peters Riot cartridge faded from history and is fairly obscure and rare to come across now. However, as we all know, snake/rat shot has gone on to live a full life in tons of calibers. While birdshot isn’t advisable for less lethal applications like crowd control, it works well to keep the garden and barn clear of pests. 

Best Selling Shotguns of 2023 (According to Gunbroker)

Every year, Gunbroker releases data regarding firearms sold on their platform. It’s always something I look forward to. Admittedly, it’s only Gunbroker’s numbers, so you can argue it’s not complete or accurate. However, I think Gunbroker’s numbers give us a pretty good glimpse into what’s selling and what’s not. With that in mind, I’m a shotgun nut, and as such, I really love knowing what shotguns are selling to the average person. The best selling shotguns give us a glimpse of trends and evolutions, so let’s look at the top ten best selling repeating claymores.

The Best Selling Shotguns of 2023

Let’s not mince words: what are the top ten shotguns of 2023?

  1. Mossberg 590
  2. Remington 870
  3. Mossberg 500
  4. Beretta A300
  5. Mossberg Maverick
  6. Benelli M4
  7. Mossberg 940
  8. Benelli Super Black Eagle
  9. Beretta Model 1301
  10. Winchester Super X Pump

The best selling shotguns are all repeating shotguns, not a single double or single barrel on the list. This isn’t a huge surprise. There are tons and tons of different single and double-barrel guns of varying qualities, which waters the market down. It’s a market for skeet, trap, and bird hunters, and bird hunters, and all those people also use semi-auto and pump guns.

All American

What we can also see is that the majority of shotguns are American or Italian-made. When it comes to high-quality shotguns, the Americans and Italians make the best. Surprisingly, the only other country of origin is Turkey, which isn’t surprising since they make truckloads of shotguns. The Winchester Super X Pump is a Turkish shotgun, and to be fair, the Winchester guns tend to be the higher-end Turkish shotguns.

We can see that Mossberg had a bang-up year; the Mossberg 590, 500, 940, and Maverick all top the top ten list. Three of the top five shotguns are Mossbergs. They dominated shotgun sales this year. Admittedly, the Mossberg 940, 500, Maverick, and 590 come in a ton of different configurations. Each of these guns comes in hunting, defensive, tactical, and even competition options, which likely helps boost sales. The famed Remington 870 made the list as well.

The Beretta/Benelli group also dominated. Together, the two brands, both owned by Beretta, also occupy four spots on the list. The A300 is an interesting option since it made the top 5 and was also recently released as the A300 Ultima Patrol, an American-made tactical configuration of the A300. The A300 comes in a few different configurations, so it likely helped boost sales. The Benelli M4 and 1301 also made the list, and both are expensive tactical shotguns, so it’s surprising to see them make the top ten list.

Semi-Auto or Pump?

To me, the most interesting takeaway is that the list is split between semi-auto and pump shotguns. Pump shotguns occupy five slots, and semi-autos occupy the other five slots. This means that semi-auto shotguns are now neck and neck with pump actions. Semi-auto shotguns are more expensive than pump guns, and only one admittedly budget Beretta made the top 5. Still, it’s an interesting development for the world of shotguns.

Tactical guns seem to be ruling the best selling shotguns marketplace. While guns like the Mossberg 500 and Beretta A300 come in numerous variants, guns like the 590, the 1301, and Benelli M4 are all tactical shotguns and occupy three of the ten spots. It wouldn’t be a surprise if the tactical variants of the various guns outsold the sporting variants.

In terms of gauge, several of these best selling shotguns come in multiple gauges and its not clear if one sold more than the other. I’d guess that the 12 gauge outsold the rest. Guns like the Maverick, Benelli M4, 1301, Winchester Super X, and 940 are all 12 gauge guns, and the rest also come in 12 gauge variants.

The Shotgun Market

Shotguns have made a bit of a comeback in the modern era, and according to Gunbroker’s top 25 overall guns, they even made the number three spot with the Mossberg 590. Shotguns also haven’t been better. It’s great to see their revival, and it’s great to be a shotgun nut in this day and age.

The RE Factor Essentials Target

As someone who likes to shoot but hates to spend money, I like it when I can get something that does several things. That’s what attracted me to the RE Factor Essentials Target. It’s a big, huge piece of paper plastered from top to bottom with different targets of varying shapes and sizes. Most of the time, that big sheet of paper we call a target is a single target with maybe one or two desirable places to hit. 

Take the FBI Q Target, for example. It’s a Coke bottle-shaped design that is vaguely human shape. As such, the desirable portions of the target are limited to the chest and head zones of the target. While that can be quite useful, it has a limiting effect on how the target can be used and how shooters build skills. We build skills by becoming better and better at increasingly difficult tasks. It’s a lot like progressive overload and working out. 

The RE Factor Essentials target provides a variety of targets within the target to create a wider variety of challenges. To be clear, I was not sent these targets, and I paid out of pocket to obtain them for this test. 

Breaking Down the RE Factor Essentials Target 

Within one large sheet of paper are 16 different target options of varying sizes and even shapes. Fifteen of the 16 targets are numbered, and the final target is a traditional bull’s eye type target. The wide variety of shapes and sizes makes the target quite appealing to me. I’m a creative person, so I can design and shoot a number of interesting drills using varying-sized shapes and targets. 

For example, I practice a pocket Mozambique drill. At the beep of a timer, I drew and fired two rounds to the big rectangle marked with the number seven. From there, I fired a well-aimed shot to the smaller 12 rectangle. It’s not exactly a Mozambique drill, but it works the same skills with a slightly different, unpredictable challenge. 

I then practiced a pocket draw to hit target 14, which is very small. Once I did that successfully, I moved to the even smaller target 15, and did the same. The targets within the RE Essentials targets can be used for all manner of drills for solo and partner training. Obviously, the numbers make call-out drills possible. I used the six dots for draw practice. Draw and fire one shot, and then record the time on the dot and move on. 

The traditional bull’s eye makes the 10-10-10 drill easy to accomplish. While I like the target, I would probably make one change. I’d ditch the traditional bull’s eye for the B-8 target. Arguably, the B-8 is a traditional Bull’s eye, but it’s used widely for a variety of drills. 

Quality Matters 

The RE Factor Essentials Target is made from bright white paper that’s thick and quite solid. The targets are 23 inches by 35 inches and made to last. The price changes depending on quantity. A 50-pack costs 37.50. 

One of the big benefits of a target like this comes down to public range users. If you strap this bad boy up, you can do a lot more shooting between cease-fire calls. I know it can be frustrating to wait and wait after you’ve done your one drill a few times and want to paste up a new target. 

RE Factor Tactical has a series of drills that utilize the target as part of their Essentials E-book. They have also published the Kill Card drill. This drill requires the shooter to land seven rounds on three different targets with two reloads in seven seconds. Those who succeed will get a place in the Hall of Fame and a patch. This drill has become my February shooting goal. 

I think these are solid target options for training and help you get the most out of your range time and training. Check them out and hopefully get some training done for yourself. 

Claude Werner – Serious Mistakes Gun Owners Make

Serious Mistakes Gunowners Make and the Decisions That Led Up To Them is a long title to a short book by Clauder Werner. Clauder Werner often goes by the online moniker of the Tactical Professor. Claude has a very interesting background that combines an Army career with ten years in Special Operations, time as a firearms instructor, a professional IDPA shooting career, and a bit of a research background. He combined those skills to write Serious Mistakes Gunowners Make and the Decisions That Led Up To Them.

The book aims to catalog and discuss mistakes broken down into three different categories. These are Legal Mistakes, Imprudent Mistakes, and Mechanical Mistakes. Claude has a history of research and building databases. He began to do just that with shootings from law enforcement and civilians who ended up in a bad spot due to legal mistakes, imprudent mistakes, and mechanical mistakes. These mistakes often end up with the shooter facing prison time.

Claude Werner Breaks It Down

I don’t want to dive deep into the actual content of the book. In each chapter, Claude Werner breaks down the definition of each type of ‘Mistake’ covered in his book. He very clearly explains what each mistake type is and how they affect the end user. The book then explains the different dimensions of these mistakes.

Claude Werner

He cements the idea behind the Serious Mistakes Gunowners Make with explanations and real examples from the real world. He uses these examples to paint a very clear picture of the mistakes these gun owners make, how they affect the overall outcome of their situation, and what ultimately happened to them.

Since this is an eBook, the PDF contains live links to take you to additional content. This includes facts and figures from reputable sources that back up the information Claude Werner presents. The book comes out to be fairly short, with only about 48 pages of information. With that said. It came free when I ordered another Tactical Professor book, Concealed Carry Skills and Drills.

I’m still working through that one, but I finished Serious Mistakes Gunowners Make and the Decisions That Led Up To Them in a single sitting without effort. It’s a solid piece of information and gives you a framing device to see common mistakes and how they affect the outcome of civilian firearm usage.

Training With Green Ops: Advanced Applications Of Pistol Mechanics

Green Ops AAPM Class

On Saturday February 17, 2024 I had the privilege of driving to The Ranch in Dilley, Texas for my second training course with Green Ops, Inc.

I was very impressed with the specificity, details, skill levels, mindset and ability of the Green Ops instructors at the LPVO course I took last autumn. Since then, I made a mental note to try and show up to the next Green Ops handgun class that lined up with my schedule. I figured if their team could teach carbine stuff to students the way they do, I wanted to see what they could do about handgun shooting.

I wasn’t disappointed.

Green Ops AAPM Course Overview

Matt McGuire shooting his S&W M&P 2.0 as he demonstrates something to students.

Perhaps because of the cold and windy weather, only three other students besides myself showed up. Those who didn’t make it sadly missed out. I think the remaining four of us got lucky because our class essentially became a semi-private lesson. This relaxed atmosphere is more conducive to learning and performance.

Matt McGuire, the Director Of Training in Texas for Green Ops, led the course as the main instructor. McGuire is endorsed by MSP/Scott Jedlinski and many of his methodologies stem from the “Jedi shooting school of thought.” He had no problem throwing down and demonstrating skills and concepts to a high level. For example, there were several times when McGuire made sub-second draws look boring and normal. Most importantly, McGuire’s skill as an instructor shone through in the way he taught and presented information. Green Ops assistant instructors Jaq and Jason were there to back up Mr. McGuire. They both kept a watchful eye over students while stepping to offer guidance when needed. In fact, I’m indebted to Jaq for taking some time to help me work on my AIWB draw. 

Handgun Fundamentals

Advanced Application of Pistol Mechanics (AAPM) methodically covers handgun fundamentals in context for experienced handgun shooters. It can also be viewed as an introduction to higher performance shooting. The first portion of the coursework is spent combing over all core elements. Those elements were grip, stance, trigger control, sight alignment, drawing and presentation. Each topic gets an instructor demo and lecture, and students shoot relevant live fire as it pertains to that topic.

During live fire, instructors keep an eye on students and dispensing guidance as needed. The second portion of the class delved into skills and drills. These exercises were a good mix of rapid fire scenarios like Bill Drills or the 3-2. Time was also spent on precise slow fire at 25-yards on full size NRA B6 targets. Also at 40-60 yards on IPSC sized steel targets. There was also brief segment covering shot-calling that was short, sweet and to the point.

After these slow and rapid fire drills were finished, the instructors walked the students through the very challenging Green Ops handgun standards (see below). We ran through the Green Ops standards twice as the course’s culminating exercise and winded things down by means of friendly informal competition. None of us students cleared the standards, and frankly they keep even the instructors honest. The end-match consisted of students lining up head to head-to-head and seeing who could nail either ISPC sized steel target 40 yards away the quickest.           

Personal Highlights

McGuire demonstrated a (new-to-me) gripping method for the support hand. It relies on only applying tension with the wrist and fingers, and wrapping up the support hand around the gun. The premise of this is to keep the gun steady using the strength of the support hand, while leaving the firing hand relatively relaxed and free. If the firing hand is too tense, it becomes near impossible to get lightning quick splits and the chances of incurring trigger freeze increase dramatically. I know, because I often deal with it.

The most surprising element of this alternative grip is the fact that the thumbs hardly play a role during firing. As I write this two days after the class, I’m still digesting this and dry-firing in this manner. Mr. McGuire drew a line across both of my hands as a visual reminder of where my hands needed to be placed. A great way to get the most out of this firing grip. In fact, everyone got lines drawn across their hands.   

Do The Wave

The coverage of Jedi’s “wave” technique is also worth mentioning too. I’ve seen it on Youtube, but have never had an experienced coach demonstrate it in person or walk me through it. The wave’s  premise is that by presenting the gun with an upward arc, the path stops with the dots or sight on the target. In other words, it’s easier to miss the dot when the gun is swinging upward rather than coming down from above. All Green Ops instructors demonstrated quick draws with an aggressive downward stabbing scooping motion, then brought the gun to chest level where they’d apply the wave and finish presenting the pistol to the target. As with all things related to shooting, there’s no such thing as “a way” but there are many ways to do many things, and it behooves the well-rounded shooter to be aware of the more useful ones.

With regards to the distance shooting portion of the class, I liked that we shot at full-size targets and not just the repair center. That provided better diagnostics for everyone, especially for a tricky subject like precision pistol distance shots.

Guns And Gear 

AAPM is gun and gear agnostic, so as long as the pistol is reliable, you should be okay. Regardless, one should bring ample magazines for their chosen pistol. At least four for those with 15+ rounds and maybe more for lower capacity mags. Most holster and rig configurations are welcome, with the exception of the SERPA holster because of the liability it represents. I shot from concealment using my PHLster Floodlight 2 while others shot from their duty set ups (e.g. Safariland buckets). I don’t get the impression that bringing a competition rig to Green Ops AAPM would be problematic.

Fair warning from firsthand experience this weekend: cold weather means more layers, which means a harder time to cleanly access a concealed pistol. For some of the shooting assessments done for time and score, I shed some layers in order to guarantee a cleaner draw. Likewise, with more layers it becomes more challenging to “look” the gun into the holster during re-holstering which is critical for safety.

Green Ops AAPM
Walther PDP Match SF + Trijicon RCR that I took to class.

Lead Downrange

I put nearly 450 rounds through my Walther PDP Match Steel Frame at AAPM. This class also my first training course with this handgun. It was also my maiden voyage with the recently mounted Trijicon RCR. I’m happy to report that the RCR’s capstan screws didn’t budge. It was something I had been leery about due to its novel mounting system. On the flip side, the RCR’s smaller window took some getting used to, something that’s easily resolved through repetition. It has a 3.25 MOA dot, and even with my slight astigmatism, I can recognize it as being round and crisp. After covering trigger prep in class as a key element of pistol shooting, I walked away with a newfound appreciation of this Walther’s flat faced Dynamic Performance Trigger. Of course I liked the trigger before, but its flat-face is conducive to great trigger prep. 

I’ve been mostly shooting the polymer and steel framed Walther PDPs during second half of 2023, but the Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 9mm is the other striker-gun on my radar lately. The M&P 2.0s aren’t exactly new, but I think they are real sleepers in the shooting performance department. Lo and behold, both McGuire and Jaq were shooting full-size Performance Center M&P 2.0s with dots and aftermarket Apex Triggers. I think that’s a clue. The rest of the guns on the line included Jason’s dotted and comped FN 509, and other students’ Glock 19, Glock 45 and Sig Sauer M17.     

A photo of Jaq’s peanut butter full-size 9mm M&P 2.0 mounted with the HS507COMP from the official Green Ops IG account.

The Takeaway  

I was humbled at this class. Since I write about shooting topics, I shoot frequently enough and my skills are on the upward swing in general. However, AAPM was reminder that there’s still a ton of information, techniques and knowledge that I don’t yet know. In fact my immediate literal ‘takeaway’ from Green Ops AAPM was how I needed to get home and incorporate some of this new material into my dry-fire regimen at once.

The AAPM is a handgun fundamentals class that’s best suited to handgun shooters with a reasonable amount of experience. This doesn’t mean that one needs to be a USPSA GM to get the most out of this class. The student who will benefit the most from this class already has an understanding of the basics of handgun shooting. Including drawing from their holster and the basics of grip, stance, sight picture, etc. As AAPM introduces more performance shooting elements, it should not be someone’s “first” pistol class because the real value of this one-day course comes from the nuances and evidence based experiences shared from the instructors.

Green Ops AAPM is also a convenient course because it’s formatted as a single day event. This makes it easier both on one’s calendar and wallet. Also, I didn’t walk away with the perception that anything critical was missing from the curriculum. This course would also be useful for experienced shooters who haven’t had the chance to train for some time with the added benefit of in-person coaching. It would be an excellent way to knock that rust out.

*The Green Ops Pistol Standards

These handgun shooting standards aren’t easy but they’re also not physically impossible. You don’t need a $10,000 racegun to clean them.

1: 7 yds, 3 shots-slide lock reload-3 shots, par time 4.0s

(took me over seven seconds by having a slow reload).

2: 7 yds, 2 shots SHO, 2 shots WHO, par time 4.0s

(took me over six seconds by being overly careful)

3: 7 yds, 1 shot in head box A zone, par time 1.5s

(best I could do was 2.04 seconds, need to work on my draw)

4: 25 yds Bill Drill, 6 shots @ A-Zone, par time 6.0s

(this is the only thing I can clear, with my best run being 4.9 seconds clean)

**Special Thanks to Jaq for allowing me to use his photos here.

STI Nemesis & the 7mm Penna

(Penna)

I love weird guns, and I love weird calibers, so it was only a matter of time before I came across the 7mm Penna and the STI Nemesis. STI because the 2011/1911 company before they changed their name to Staccato. In anticipation of SHOT, I was looking at ancient SHOT articles…going back as far as 2010! That’s when I ran across the STI Nemesis and the 7mm Penna round.

It’s tough to find a lot of information on guns and their caliber. It bears mentioning that the Nemesis didn’t seem to have been built by STI but perhaps imported. It’s not incredibly clear, but it appears the Nemesis was built by an Italian firm called QS Armi. Why would STI market or import an obscure gun and caliber from Italy? Well, they were also producing M1911s in both standard and double stack frame types for the 7mm Penna round.

The Nemesis Pistol

Not much seems to be known about the QS Armi Nemesis pistol. We know that it was a concealed carry-oriented weapon. The magazine held 13 rounds of 7mm Penna. From some reports of SHOT Show attendees, the trigger was nice, and the slide was easy to rack. It appears to be a fairly small pistol.

STI

The edges look mostly melted, and the gun looks snag-free. The magazine release is a very odd design. It’s placed to the rear of the grip and looks like a revolver cylinder release. It seems to be the only thing close to a snag point. While unconventional, I try to withhold judgment until I can try it myself.

It appears to be about the same size as a single stack 9mm for the era, but those 9mm typically held eight rounds. Four extra rounds aren’t bad, but is it revolutionary?

The 7mm Penna

The 7mm Penna was developed by Leonardo Penna, who, unsurprisingly, was of Italian descent. He designed the caliber for IPSC, which might have you holding your horses. This caliber doesn’t appear to be IPSC legal, at least by my calculations. However, maybe the Italian IPSC has a few different rules. The idea was to create a small, low-recoiling cartridge that allowed for higher capacity. Why not just use 9mm?

Well, up until 2011, you couldn’t. Italy has some laws in place regarding military calibers owned by civilians. Not all calibers used by the military are banned for civilian use, but some are, and for a long time, this included the standard 9mm cartridge. Plus, the 7mm Penna still offered lower recoil and higher capacity than the 9mm.

Wikipedia

Mr. Penna took a 5.7x28mm cartridge and necked it up to accept a .277 bullet, which actually isn’t a 7mm bullet. It’s actually 6.8 mm, but rounding up was likely an easy way to capture the minds of folks who think bullet size is everything. Fiocchi would later produce the ammo as the only major manufacturer who adopted the load.

The bullet would be light and fast. It’s tough to find solid information on the different loads Fioochi offered, but a load that utilized a 68-grain bullet moves at 1,400 feet per second from a 5-inch barrel. The smaller bullet allowed a single-stack M1911 to hold 13 rounds and a double-stack to hold 26!

While the cartridge was designed for IPSC, it does seem like they pivoted towards concealed carry and self-defense. That’s where the Nemesis pistol came to be. Sadly, that’s where the round and the gun ended. The 7mm Penna didn’t generate much interest, and it has since faded into obscurity.

The .224 BOZ – A Forgotten PDW Cartridge

(DB Militaria)

The world of PWD cartridges is a weird one. The term PDW has shifted around a bit. The original definition was of something between a rifle and a handgun cartridge. Rounds like the 5.7x28mm and the 4.6x30mm defined the genre. They were a lot like light rifle cartridges, similar to the old .30 Carbine. While the FN and HK rounds dominated the genre, there was a contender that is often forgotten, and he goes by the name .224 Boz. 

The .224 Boz – The Forgotten PDW Cartridge 

A British company called Civil Defence Supply was the force behind the .224 Boz. The intent was to provide special operations and law enforcement an intermediate option between a full-powered rifle round and a pistol round. 

The .224 Boz was a PDW cartridge intended to provide the same benefits as the 5.7 and 4.6. It would be a relatively short-range round. It would outperform a pistol, but getting beyond 150 yards might be challenging. The round was also designed to be able to punch through soft body armor and some helmet designs. The design started in the 1990s, which would make it a contemporary of the 4.6 and 5.7. 

(Wikipedia)

While the 5.7 and 4.6 were radically different from other rifle rounds, the .224 Boz would utilize some familiar components. The original cartridge utilized a 10mm case that was necked down to .223. The projectile weighed 50 grains and was able to reach velocities of 2,500 feet per second. It was capable of piercing soft flak jackets as well as military helmets of the era. 

One test had the .224 Boz, the 5.7 and 4.6, competing in head-to-head trials. The trial included penetrating a NATO CRISAT spec target of layered titanium and kevlar armor. The .224 Boz performed favorably compared to the two O.G.s of PDW cartridges. The .224 Boz flew flat out to 100 meters and provided low recoil. 

Keeping Things Standard 

One of the big benefits of using the 10mm case was the ability to use established weapons. Civil Defence Supply utilized the MP-5/10, the Glock 20, and a 1911. The cartridge worked in each gun, which ensured there was minimal need to develop new firearms to chamber the cartridge. New barrels and other such parts were needed, but existing weapons and even magazines could be used. 

With that said, the .224 Boz didn’t perform well from short barrels. According to Civil Defence Supply, the handgun would be available as a 5.5-inch compact version and a 6.5-inch standard version. These would be fairly large handguns, and a lot of their value was probably lost. It’s not too different than handguns chambering the classic PDW cartridges. 

Reddit

As the 1990s turned into the 2000s, this crazy thing called the GWOT occurred. This seemingly stalled the need for PDWs since we weren’t facing the Red Menace at the Fulda Gap. With the GWOT, we saw the rise of the small carbine; the M4 took over, and even smaller variants like the MK 18 came to be. This largely eliminated the military need for a PDW. As the war continued, the PDW role was taken over by .300 Blackout with guns like the SIG LVAW. 

A Rise Again 

In 2010, there was an attempt to revive the project. The new .224 Boz would use a 9mm case and could reach velocities of 2,200 feet per second. It was sadly lost and didn’t pick up any steam. What didn’t help that Civil Defence Supply only marketed the cartridge to law enforcement and military forces. It might not have succeeded if offered to the civilian market, but the 5.7x28mm is still kicking around, and FN released the PS90 years ago. 

For now, the .224 Boz is dead. However, it seemed like a cartridge that could have really succeeded as a light rifle option. Sadly, the market for a ‘light’ rifle is more or less dead with the versatility of the .223/5.56 round dominating the market. 

How Spicy is the 5.7? GT Science

The 5.7x28mm has had a successful resurgence in popularity. New ammunition and available, new pistols, and new carbines have all combined to give the round that is essentially 5.56Lite a new lease on life.

But is it effective?

That seems to be the cyclical question, are the available ammunitions good as a sidearm round or PDW round. Does it do defensively what is required of a sidearm or PDW? Does it, at the least, compete favorably with .380 ACP, .38 SPL, or 9mm?

Mike and the Garand Thumb team are looking to put a little science behind the inquiries and generate data to form answers. I’ll say for certain that the Belgian armed forces use it as their sidearm, and they are not slouches in selection. But in contrast, I also know how military procurement and firearm selection can go and you sometimes just deal with what you have. M14, M17/M18, M9 with the bad mags, just because it is in use doesn’t assure its greatness.

Anywho, enjoy the vid!