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How I Quit Caring About Printing and Learned to Love My Full Sized Gun

As a guy who carries a Sig Sauer P226 daily I agree with Travis here…

From Travis Pike

When I was first issued my concealed carry permit I went with what I thought was the wise route in weapon selection. I had read from many others that most new concealed carriers carried a gun much too large.

So I went with small, and affordable and ended up with a Bersa 380. It was a great little gun for the price, and it was easy to carry. From there I eventually moved to a Glock 26 and then to a Walther PPS. They were all compact guns that were small, lightweight, and easy to carry. They were also limited in capacity, had a short sight radius, and often grips too small to fully fill the hand.

Over time I began trending a bit larger with my concealed carry handgun, going to a SIG P250 compact (Roughly Glock 19 sized) whenever possible. From there I finally settled on the CZ P09. The CZ P09 is a full sized 9mm handgun that holds 19 in the magazine and comes with an optional plus 2 extension for 21 total rounds.

The P09 has a 4.54-inch barrel, has an overall length of 8.1 inches and is 1.46 inches wide. It’s by no means a small gun, but I feel incredibly comfortable carrying it. Guns are supposed to be comforting, not comfortable right? Well, luckily they can be both.

Why a Full Sized Gun?

First and foremost a larger gun is easier to shoot than a smaller gun. The larger grips are more comfortable, the longer sight radius makes the gun easier to shoot accurately, and I have significantly more rounds on tap. The differences and ergonomic advantages were reason enough to go full sized for me.

With my Walther PPS, I can hit a 21 inch (Tall) popper only about 50% of the time. With my CZ P09, I can hit that same popper more than 90% of the time. I can even consistently hit the target shooting somewhat rapidly. With the Walther PPS its fire, realign sights, get back on target and finally fire again. With the P09 it’s fire, follow through, and fire again.

Regarding rapid fire, the CZ P09 is much easier to squeeze off round rapidly and accurately. This includes double taps, failure to stop drills, and just dropping rounds. The larger grip, heavier weight, and longer barrel reduces recoil and makes rapid shots just a bit easier.

In terms of ammo capacity, I use 7 round mags with the PPS, and I’d have to carry three of them to make one P09 magazine. Is there a need for that ammunition in a civilian self-defense scenario? Probably not. Maybe it’s just the former machine gunner in me, but I’ve never thought having too much ammunition was a bad thing. I certainly don’t want to die for lack of ammo.

The longer barrel also gives me a hair more velocity with similar loads. The faster the bullet the better penetration I’ll get through barriers and thick clothing.

Many are right to point out the likelihood of needing that much ammunition is superbly small. That’s true, but the likelihood of me ever needing my gun as a law abiding citizen is also quite small, but I don’t leave home without it. I won’t be the one guy who needed it and didn’t have it.

A full sized gun narrows the threat gap when faced with an opponent armed with a long gun. That’s another long shot, but as we’ve seen it’s possible. The same goes for multiple opponents. Unlikely scenarios but I’m already planning for the unlikely by carrying a gun, and every single listed scenario has happened in the past and can happen again.

How to Carry a Full Sized Handgun

Part of the biggest reason I began carrying a large gun is I learned how to carry a large gun. I learned that choice of belt and holster made a massive difference in my ability to carry a full sized gun. I learned to spend a little money to get a high quality holster.

I also purchased several gun belts that were rigid and strong enough to bear the weight of the CZ P09. This keeps the belt from sagging or rotating in any direction. This extra support ensures the gun remains concealed and doesn’t sag below the cover garment. This also makes carrying the gun a lot more comfortable when it comes to day to day carry.

The combination of a high-quality holster and belt makes carrying the gun comfortable. Even if it’s large and in charge carrying it can be comfortable. It certainly took some time and money to experiment with what worked but wearing the gun day after day changed the way I carried.

My current combination is the HTC Vantage and the HTC gun belt. The Vantage is an excellent holster and allows me to carry my CZ P09 and a Streamlight TLR 1 concealed and away from prying eyes.

But What About Printing?

What about it? I find the only people that actually notice a gun is printing is the person carrying the gun. People are too wrapped up in what they are doing to stop and look at my waist to determine if I’m carrying a gun or not. It simply doesn’t happen and I typically conceal my gun under nothing more than a T shirt.

Let’s say someone observant sees that I’m printing?

So what?

If I’m not breaking the law and even if they notice what does that change? On the off chance they notice it’s pretty difficult to tell If I’m actually packing or I have, for instance, an insulin pump. Printing isn’t something that keeps me up at night.

Admittedly I’m a big dude so I can carry a larger gun a bit easier than most (As a littler dude its pretty freakin’ easy tooKeith). However, even a small person could carry a decently sized firearm with a bit of dedication and practice. A Glock 19 gives you 15 rounds of 9mm and is still easy to carry, the same goes for the SIG P229. Combine those compact guns with a good IWB holster and gun belt and you’d be surprised at just how easy it is to carry a decent sized fighting handgun.

The Little Fellas

I still have my Walther PPS and still carry it on occasion. In some situations, it is impossible to carry a full sized gun. When I go a run I take the PPS, when I’m having to dress up I take the PPS. There will always be reasons to have a little gun, but when I can go big, I go big.

Carrying it isn’t always comfortable (like in movie theater seats) but it’s always comforting.

 

RISE Armament Debuts New Trigger Group

RISE Armament Debuts New
Trigger Group
The RA-434 High-Performance Trigger uniquely combines smoothness and speed.RA-140 SSTBROKEN ARROW, Okla. – Building on the popularity of its industry-leading AR triggers, RISE Armament is proud to introduce the RA-434 High-Performance Trigger.
The accuracy-enhancing RA-434 High-Performance Trigger (HPT) uniquely combines smoothness and speed for a tremendous upgrade in performance.
The first of its kind, the RA-434 is a premium trigger available at a mid-range cost.
“Customers have been drawn to the extreme value of our triggers, so when designing the RA-434, we set out to continue to deliver quality and performance for a great price,” said Matt Torres, president of RISE Armament.
Ultra smooth to the break with a crisp, clean release, the RA-434 HPT helps rifle owners shoot more accurately with less effort. It boasts a quick reset and low overtravel for enhanced speed.
The RA-434 HPT has a straight trigger blade—available in black or silver—for enhanced control and a lighter-feeling pull weight. “We’ve had numerous requests for a straight trigger, so we’re excited to offer this option,” Torres said.
The single-stage trigger has a 3.5-pound pull and a skeletonized hammer. The RA-434 HPT also has a drop safety feature, and it fits most .223/5.56 and .308 AR-style platforms.
Like all RISE products, the RA-434 HPT is manufactured and assembled in RISE’s Oklahoma-based facility according to stringent AS9100 aerospace requirements, and it is backed by RISE Armament’s lifetime guarantee. It is precision CNC machined from high-grade, heat-treated tool steel and aluminum. Each trigger group is contained in a black hardcoat anodized aluminum housing. Its self-contained design makes it easy to install with no fine-tuning needed.
The RA-434 HPT is immediately available and retails for $169.
About RISE Armament
Headquartered in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, RISE Armament designs and manufactures industry-leading firearms, parts, and accessories. All RISE products are manufactured according to strict AS9100-certified procedures for enhanced quality control. For more information, visit www.risearmament.com.

Maxim Defense has MPX and MCX CQB Stocks!

If you’ve been following Sig Sauer the last couple years the company has been forging out new products like Hephaestus. Ammo, Optics, Legion Series, and the P320 that is now the XM17.

Among those were two evolutionary new carbines, the MPX and MCX.

MCX Series

But… let’s face it, to some of us they kinda phoned in the stock options. Like no one at Sig told the stock guy he was the stock guy and instead left him to make some very good picatinny lock ups for stocks and told him on Friday after lunch that there has to be a stock attached too by Monday…

Well the innovators at Maxim Defense didn’t stop with their fantastic CQB Stock and Brace systems for the AR’s and have given us a solution.

The new CQB stocks offer what many of the earlier stocks from other sources lacked, adjustability and cheek weld.

 

At 17.5 oz for the MPX and 17.7 oz for the MCX and adding from 4.18 to 9 inches in stock length from the start of the rear receiver picatinny rail the 5 position stocks are a welcome addition for shooters looking at the aftermarket for stock options on their Sig Sauer carbines.

I’ll let Maxim’s release cover the rest… Now where is that VIRTUS?

From Maxim Defense Themselves

How To Shoot Faster: 4 Tips To Increase Your Draw Speed

James Williamson of Teufelshund Tactical

From Chris B.

Being able to quickly draw your gun, acquire your target and fire is a valuable skill which comes in handy for both competitions and self-defense situations.

Far too many gun owners have one routine. They go to the gun range and lackadaisically load their guns, aim and shoot.

They prioritize comfort over technique, but the reality is a self-defense situation isn’t going to be comfortable. If you’re facing a life-or-death situation, you need shooting techniques you can rely on.

Increasing your draw speed is the single-most important part of shooting faster. Follow these tips to see dramatic improvements in how quickly you draw your gun.

1. Develop Solid Fundamentals

If you’re an experienced shooter, you can probably skip this step.

But if you’re still learning the ropes, you’ll want to make sure you have your fundamentals down before you start worrying about how fast you can draw your gun.

There are a few key elements to shooting that should be second nature.

The first is your stance. When shooting, you want to have a slight forward lean to your body with your arms almost fully extended.

Your grip is very important. You should have as firm a grip on the gun as possible without gripping it so hard that your hands begin shaking.

It’s a good idea to grab the gun as high up on it as you can with your shooting hand, and then wrap your support hand around the other side of the handle.

You should be able to line up your sights enough that you can shoot accurately from at least 10 yards away. Handgun scopes, while

Your trigger squeeze should be a smooth process where you don’t jerk the gun at all in anticipation of the recoil.

2. Reduce the Number of Decisions You Make

Cutting down on how many decisions you need to make is critical for increasing your draw and shooting speed.

Now, at first glance, shooting may not seem like a situation where you make many decisions. However, most shooters make quite a few small, split-second decisions.

The problem is that each of these split-second decisions makes your shooting a bit slower. And in a life-or-death situation where you’re dealing with an adrenaline rush, these decisions can become even more of an issue.

What kind of decisions are we talking about here? Here are a couple:

How are you going to draw your gun?

How will you release the slide?

Let’s look at these examples, one at a time.

There are two main options for drawing your gun – the draw stroke and the close-quarters draw stroke, also sometimes called the right-angle draw stroke.

The draw stroke involves drawing your gun, holding it pointed down in front of your waist while you put your support hand on it, and then raising it up to acquire your sights.

This won’t work if you have an object in front of you that blocks you from raising the gun, and it will take you an extra moment to acquire your sights upon raising the gun when you use this draw.

With the close-quarters draw stroke, you draw the gun and keep it tight to your body as you bring the support hand over to it. You then acquire your sights as you extend your arms.

Not only does the close-quarters draw work in all situations, but it helps you acquire your sights more quickly.

Given the advantages of the close-quarters draw, that’s the only draw you should train. You don’t want to wonder which draw you should do in a self-defense situation.

When your slide is locked back, you can either use the slide lock to release it or grab the slide and rack it.

The only time you’ll use the slide lock is in this situation, whereas you’ll need to grab the slide to charge the gun otherwise. Since grabbing the slide will work in any situation and using the slide lock will not, you should eliminate using the slide lock from your toolkit.

It’s also smart to always do a tap and rack no matter what action you’re performing with your gun. Loading, reloading, clearing jams – since the tap and rack will work for all of these, stick with that and reduce your number of decisions.

Keeping decisions to a minimum is one reason we recommend guns without manual safeties if your focus is on quick drawing. A safety just takes more valuable time.

Two excellent choices for quick drawing are the Ruger LC9 Pro, designed to meet the needs of law enforcement officers in high-stress situations, and the M&P9 SHIELD No Thumb Safety.

3. Practice Slowly and Smoothly to Start

One of the biggest problems you could encounter when working on your quick draw is trying to do it quickly.

Many shooters are so focused on speed that their movements become jerky.

There’s a common saying used in shooting, martial arts and likely many other areas. It goes “slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

Even when your aim is a quick draw and fast shooting, don’t try to practice that right away. Instead, work on minimizing your movements.

Make sure you’re drawing your gun correctly and you don’t have any excess movements during the process.

As you go through this procedure, you’ll develop muscle memory and you’ll naturally start to do it more quickly.

If at any point you notice your form is starting to suffer, slow down.

Here’s a good anecdote demonstrating how beneficial it is to be smooth instead of fast:

A shooting instructor set up a course with around 10 targets, and there was quite a bit of movement between shooting positions for each of these targets.

The students, who were all experienced shooters in their own right, ran through the course, trying to do it as quickly as possible.

The instructor walked through the whole course and had the best time by several seconds. While everyone else was focusing on speed, he was focusing on smoothness.

4. Practice Different Drills and Scenarios

If you use the aforementioned techniques to develop a quick draw while you’re at the range, then that will likely be the only place where you have a quick draw.

Obviously, your typical self-defense situation won’t be anything like standing and firing at a paper or steel target.

You’ll be moving around.

You could end up shooting from awkward positions.

Maybe you aren’t able to get in your typical firing stance – you’re on your back, or your knees or one hand is occupied so you can only shoot one-handed.

If you truly want to be good at shooting quickly, you need to practice in different situations.

A video simulator is one way to practice what a real self-defense situation would be like. You can also take classes that focus on shooting in self-defense situations.

Other options include incorporating movement into your shooting, shooting while a partner times you or yells instructions, or shooting in a competition.

Developing Your Skills

When you get your fundamentals down pat, keep your decisions to a minimum, focus on smoothness and practice often, you’ll see significant improvements on how quickly you can draw and fire your gun.

Having the right gun is also important for a quick draw. While you can improve your draw speed with any gun, certain guns are much easier to draw and fire than others.

We mentioned guns with no manual safety earlier, but we also like compact 9mm guns for quick drawing.

The compact size makes the gun easier to draw. The 9mm caliber means there will be less recoil so it’s easier to keep your shots on target.

The Gen 4 Glock 19 is a popular handgun for women who want a gun for quick drawing because of its lightness and easy-to-use ergonomic design.

Whichever gun you choose, get proficient with it until using it feels like second nature.

Skills Maintenance: Limited Resources. Using Deliberate Practice on Low Round Counts

From 248Shooter.com 

Training and skills maintenance is a subject that we shortchange ourselves on when it comes to where our time, our effort, and our resources are spent. It’s understandable in many respects since basic skills maintenance isn’t anything new. It’s not a new rifle in the case or safe. It isn’t a new sidearm riding in a holster. It’s not a new optic with legendary level glass clarity or electronics efficiency. It isn’t even a new skills development course from a professional source.

Skills maintenance isn’t gratifying the way a new purchase is and because of that difference in our gratification response its very easy for us to put practicing off. Factoring the difference in gratification response in with the already fully scheduled life of your average adult and the time we want to spend on skills maintenance drops even further.

Making time to practice is something we must do but understanding what to practice and where our skill development stands, objectively speaking, can be difficult to evaluate outside of a course. Do I shoot the same few drills I did in my State CPL class? Do I try something I saw online? What targets should I be using? What distances should I shoot at? Am I maintaining and progressing ?

How do you assess? Equally important when you’re trying to be efficient as well as proficient, how much time, effort, ammunition, and other resources will this take?

Our training goal is to assess and improve our shooting engagement speed and accuracy in a timely and practical manner. That doesn’t have a magic number of rounds, its going to take however many shots it takes. Being efficient with each round and using each shot as an assessment tool will cut the number down drastically though.

The following combination assessment training in its entirety takes 100 rounds of ammunition, two targets (specified), a holster, a spare magazine or speed loader, a range indoor or outdoor where you can fire at distances between 3 and 15 yards (9-45 feet), a shot timer or timer phone application, and proper range PPE eyes and ears. It can be completed comfortably within 30 minutes.

This is a short and easily fulfilled requirement set. If you can’t find a spot to meet them you aren’t looking and if you can’t acquire the gear you aren’t trying.

Part 1:Dot Torture

For candid accuracy assessment I like to use Dot Torture. Developed by David Blinder, I originally found this drill at https://pistol-training.com/drills/dot-torture you can print your targets right from the webpage

This is a 50 round, 50 point accuracy assessment using basic pistol manipulation. The directions for the entire drill are on the printed target, as are boxes for Date, Score, and Distance to document the assessment.

Remember kids the difference between screwing around and science is writing it down.

Select your target based on your firearm type. I use the TDA Dot Torture target above because I carry a Sig P226. The P226 is a TDA or Traditional Double Action, also known as a DA/SA, Double Action / Single Action. Use this target if you have a gun that transitions from double to single action after the first shot.

If I’m training with my Glock 19 I use the standard Dot Torture target. Use this target for all firearms with a single trigger pull weight to include DAO Double Action Only semi-autos, DAK Double Action Shorts, Double Action Revolvers, Single Action Only semi-autos like the 1911, and Striker Fired guns like the Glock, M&P, and Sig P320.

To be completed correctly use your gun’s default trigger. No thumb cocking the hammer, Revolver and TDA shooters, fire double action… this is to realistically assess your skills placement on your firearm, cheating this only cheats you.

Shoot from 3 yards (9 feet). The directions for each circle target or pair are below the target circle. Shoot from 1-10 following the directions. Score each circle or pair of circles on completion for objective assessment, breaking the circles edge counts as a hit. Each circle or pair are engaged drawing from your holster Total your hits per circle and compare to the 50 shots fired. Only count hits that were deliberately fired at that circle, a shot at 1 that hit 3 is not a bonus point for 3.

Dot Torture is excellent for detail work on accuracy, its hard to cheat small targets and it is unforgiving of errors in shooting grip or trigger press. Knowing that you are throwing a round high, low, left, or right of the target while not under a serious time constraint can help you diagnose and correct small errors and the fact that many of the drills fire multiple rounds will help assess whether or not you shift or adjust your grip while firing, also called milking your grip.

Take notes, notate your low score drills and the type of misses. Address them, implement fixes and adjustments and reshoot those drills as you get time to achieve better results, but complete this full assessment first.

Dot Torture is designed to be fired and graded cold bore. No warm ups, no practice runs, no dry fire, this is your opening sequence. Use your noted weak drills to focus your continued practice for later. If you’re scoring in the 40’s consider increasing the distance 1 yard (3 feet). If you score 50 increase the distance next assessment and don’t revert back, keep pushing. You should strive to push this drill out to 10 yards (30 feet), but make sure your scoring well enough to push the distance. These drills are designed to meticulously develop your shooting basics on an ammo conscious basis.

While you can add a time component as a stress factor do not worry about that until you’ve added distance. Dot Torture is an accuracy builder. Once you can score well at distance you can vary the routine and add a time limit at short distance, then build it up deliberately.

Shooting beyond your current skill set for anything but enjoyment are rounds wasted.

 

Part 2:   FBI Q Course (Modified)

The FBI Firearms Qualification Course, or Q Course is a 60 round examination used as the minimum acceptable standard for Special Agents to carry a firearm in the field. It is not difficult and as such can be used by individual shooters as a good indicator of basic skill level and identify weaknesses in skill sets for improvement.

We’re going to cover a modified version of the Q course that drops the last 10 rounds and the cover/concealment exercise. That portion of the evaluation adds very little value for the shooter and makes the equipment requirement and range requirements much more arduous.  Plus it throws off my 100 round count.

The Q course brings a timing event into the equation and is shot at a QIT-99 target (above). You can easily substitute an IPSC/IDPA/USPSA silhouette and use the A/B/C or -0/-1 zones as your scoring area. Set up your shot timer or timer app for par time (2 beeps, start and time complete) this will allow you to score any slow shots as misses. Use a holster and concealment (best testing will conducted be with your EDC set up).

Your minimum passing score will be 40/50 but you should be looking to shoot this cleanly. Remember you’re on the clock but don’t rush your shots, only hits count. The time requirements are generous and meant as both a minor stress induction and a baseline to prevent moving excessively slow which is dangerous in its own right. Fighting is fast and violent and the faster you can become effectively violent the better off you will be if/when that need arises.

Starting at 3 yards. You will need 12 rounds total.

  1. Draw and fire 3 shots with your strong hand only. Time limit 3 seconds
  2. Repeat 1.
  3. Draw and fire 3 shots strong hand only. Switch hands and fire 3 rounds support hand only. Time limit 8 seconds

Move to 5 yards. You will need 12 rounds total. Two handed shooting on all drills from this point forward.

  1. Draw and fire 3 rounds.  Time limit 3 seconds. 4 repetitions total.

Move to 7 yards. You will need 16 total rounds. You will need a second magazine/loader.

  1. Draw and fire 4 rounds. Time limit 4 seconds.
  2. Repeat 1.
  3. Draw and fire 4 rounds. Gun runs empty, reload. Fire 4 rounds. Time limit 8 seconds.

Move to 15 yards. You will need 10 rounds total.

  1. Draw and fire 3 rounds. Time limit 6 seconds.
  2. Repeat 1.
  3. Draw and fire 4 rounds. Time limit 8 seconds.

Course complete. Again, minimum 80% (40/50) to pass. Use any low scored drills to identify skill deficiencies for more work. If you shot the Q course clean look at the drills you were closest to the time limits on and work to make those quicker. You can add additional difficulty by adding more reloads or combining steps to work on sustained fire.

Make every round count, especially when you’re time and resource limited. Above is just one method to do so. There are many.

Now go hit the range. No Excuses.

Now Shipping from Magpul: M3 PMags for 300 BLK!

Where are my 300 Blackout Fans at? Now that the MCT PMags are out Magpul has released the 30 AR 300 B GEN M3, 300 Blackout Pmags. While standard mags do work they are sub-optimal, being dedicated to 5.56mm round size, shape and weight. The new mags? Well I’ll let Magpul explain
Why a Dedicated 300 BLK Mag?
 
While some .300 Blackout® ammo runs consistently in 5.56 magazines for some users, others have found it to be problematic. At the request of some demanding professional users, we have designed an ultra-reliable magazine dedicated to handling the challenges of various 300 BLK ammunition types.
Optimizes Round Stack
 
300 BLK rounds come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and some don’t interface correctly with the contact areas in a 5.56 mag. This can ultimately cause stoppages. By designing a PMAG specifically for .300 Blackout, we were able to optimize the round stack for the increasing variety of 300 BLK projectiles.
Minimizes Side Pressure and Friction

Dust or suppressor fouling magnify the problem—especially with certain subsonic rounds. This creates side pressure within the mag, adding friction and slowing the stack movement upwards. This is a geometry issue that our PMAG 30 AR 300 B is engineered to solve.
Avoids Caliber Misidentification
 
The dedicated PMAG for 300 BLK includes tactile and visual cues that differentiate it from 5.56 PMAGs for those who need to switch types of ammunition rapidly. This helps to avoid dangerous misidentifications and cross loading.
Maintains PMAG Reliability
Like all PMAGs, the PMAG 30 AR 300 B GEN M3 magazine features a long-life USGI-spec stainless steel spring, four-way anti-tilt follower and constant-curve internal geometry for reliable feeding.
Look for them in the wild now!

Michigan Constitutional Carry Moves Forward, But What is in the Bill?

From 248Shooter.com

No, you can’t carry without a license yet Michiganders. Period. Done. End of Story.

But we are getting there.

Here’s the house Summary of the four bill package now awaiting concurrence with the Senate again.

First, CPLs aren’t going away or really becoming any less useful. They still stand in for a NICS check for a firearm purchase and allow you the certain additional exemptions from non-licensees. CPLs are the only reciprocal form of concealed carry for out of state. Many Constitutional Carry States only allow their residents that right, not visitors.

Second, legal language is being amended to decriminalize carry of a firearm concealed on a person or in a vehicle and narrow the criminal act to only those already prohibited from possessing a firearm. Basically if you shouldn’t have the gun you’re in more trouble because you’re hiding it. But if it is your gun and you’re allowed to have it, you can carry it concealed or otherwise. This also simplifies transporting all firearms as their loaded or unloaded status becomes a moot point and firearms like the Mossberg 590 Shockwave become an option as a “Trunk Gun”

Third and VERY IMPORTANT,  the language does nothing to amend or alter pistol free zones. The open carry pistol free zones will apply to non-licensee concealed carry. This means, Wal-Mart, Meijer, Walgreens, and any restaurant that serves or sells any alcohol is off limits (Liquor Control Code). Banks are off limits also. The non-licensed zones are more restrictive than the licensed zones.

Fourth, it simplifies and eliminates a great many procedural exemptions like someone being exempt from the prohibition on non-licensed concealed carry if they are on their own property since non-licensed carry would no longer be prohibited except in PFZs.

Fifth, the language for disclosing carry and the fines and fees associated with a violation are simplified. Now instead of immediately disclosing if you are carrying or transporting a loaded firearm to a peace officer you must do so on request by the peace officer. Failure to disclose on request and/or carrying without State ID (and CPL for CPL holders) would be a straight $100 fine civil infraction.

RALLT Hammock Review

What is a gun page doing reviewing a hammock? If you’re seriously asking, as some of my friends have, then you don’t take enough classes. The Hammock at the Alliance PD Range gets a ton of use because on hot days there is nothing like racking out for 20 minutes to refresh the body. If you ever run competitive shooting there can be delays between matches. Nothing like taking a load off by attaching this between 2 cars.

255 lbs supported nicely.

I have made the RALLT Single Camping Hammock a staple in my emergency car kit. This affords me the luxury of a fast nap in all sorts of unexpected places. The small kit takes up 5 cubic inches of room, weighs less than 1lb, and assembles in 5 minutes or less. On the go or just in your car, it’s easy to find a place for it.

In a real emergency situation, it makes for a great way to stay up off cold or wet ground. When paired with a tarp it can even make for a hasty shelter. To many “survivalists” forget shelter needs to be top priority in their preparations and instead focus on just food, water, and defensive tools.

The non-stretch nautical rope that is included attaches to no snag wiregate carabiners with a simple wrap around the closest tree or pole. Then when you’re done, it all stuffs back in the stuff sack attached to the hammock, ensuring it will never get lost or blown away while you snooze.

Being a larger guy 6’1” and pushing 255 lbs, I was hesitant to use this at first. The hammock is amply suited to even fit Steve Fisher “Yeti” at 10ft long and 4’7” wide but would it handle the weight? The material looks to be very thin and light weight, designed for those skinny millennial hiker types. However, the 70D Ripstop material and triple chain seams held me just fine. I have to say it’s sturdy as hell and likely lives up to its claim of 400lbs. If you’re larger or want to snuggle your battle buddy then you can purchase the two person version for $10 more.

Pros:

  • Lightweight
  • Affordable
  • Easy to set up
  • Perfect for spring, summer, or fall dry days

Cons:

  • Hammocks take some getting used to getting in and out of
  • While comfortable a tarp would be needed to make it a shelter

The RALLT Single Hammock comes in 7 colors with alternate versions for 2 people or cammo patterns. It can be bought from https://www.rallt.com/ directly for $35.95 in single or $45.95 as a double. At this price I bought two, one for the car and one for my bug out bag.

How To – Reloading the Combat Shotgun

Now that the Independence Day weekend is through we’re back to our usual informative pace… Travis called Shotgun

From Travis Pike

The shotgun is an awesome weapon. It’s a brutal close quarters combat instrument that is hard to beat in a house fight. One of the biggest downsides to the shotgun is its limited ammo capacity. Because of its limited capacity a shotgunner needs to know two vital reload methods, just in case. These are broken down into the speed/emergency reload and the tactical reload.

These techniques are designed for shotguns with tubular magazines in semi automatic, or pump configurations. Unique shotguns like the KSG, the DD 12, the VEPR12, or the UTAS 15 will have modified techniques.

Ammunition Carry Methods

Before we address reloading we are going to talk briefly on how you carry the reloads.

 

On Gun

Extra ammo for the shotgun is most commonly carried on the gun. This is typically a side saddle configuration that offers 4 to 6 rounds of extra ammo. The side saddle is one of the necessary accessories for a shotgunner in my opinion. The Side Saddle can be used in two ways.

If I was still an active duty Marine and still issued a shotgun my side saddle would be my “Oh Crap” ammo source. It’d be dedicated to speed reloads, and my on body means of carrying ammo is for tactical reloads and topping off.

As a normal Joe who keeps a shotgun for home defense the side saddle is my only means of carrying extra ammo so it’s used for everything. I’m not tossing on a vest or bandoleer to greet home invaders.

On Body

For law enforcement, military, and preppers it’s a good idea to have an additional means of carrying ammunition. It could be a belt of ammo, a pouch with ammo safely stored and organized, or something like the Ammo Pal. This gives them a lot more ammo than a side saddle. However, they should still have a side saddle on their shotgun.

This on body ammo is perfect for topping off the shotgun in a fight, and the allows shooter to reserve the side saddle for speed reloads. If a speed reload is utilized the side should be refreshed from the on body ammo.

Tactical Reload

A tactical reload occurs anytime you have a lull in the fight. The joy of a combat shotgun is the ability to keep it loaded by topping it off. The general rule of thumb is fire two, load two. Whenever you aren’t shooting you should be reloading.

The low capacity of a shotgun and close quarters nature demands you be proficient at keeping the shotgun loaded. When tactically loading there is already a round chambered. With that in mind you want to keep the weapon pointed in the last known direction of the threat, and keep your eyes focused downrange.

You need to be able to retrieve ammunition by feel alone. To tactically reload a shotgun you’ll need to retrieve rounds from your ammo source and load the tubular magazine with as many rounds as you safely can.

You want to be able to retrieve and load ammunition without having to look at the gun or your ammo source, as well as being able to reload your shotgun on the move. This coordination takes training, but is an invaluable skill if you are running a shotgun.

Speed/Emergency Reload

The Speed reload should be used when you run dry and are still in a close combat scenario. The goal of speed reloading is to get a round into the chamber as fast as possible. In this situation you are attempting to get a dry weapon back into action to deal with an immediate threat. With that in mind we want to be able to load as quickly as possible. Generally the fastest way to reload a standard combat shotgun is via a side saddle.

To start a speed reload from a dry gun the weapon needs to have it’s action opened with an empty tube and chamber. You’ll draw a round from your ammunition source, and position it in your hand so the rim is facing you. With the rim facing you, insert the round into the open port. You do not have to load the round directly into the chamber, this takes too much time.

With the action opened the shell lifter will be in the up position and it will hold the round in place after you put the round through the port. From here you will send the round into the chamber by pushing the pump forward, or by hitting the bolt release on a semi automatic shotgun. When using a semi automatic don’t be afraid of the charging handle. It may hit your hand, but it doesn’t hurt.

When loading through the port you can go under or over the receiver. I find going over the receiver to be the better option for me for a couple of reasons. First going over means my rounds are rim up in the side saddle, which means they are less likely to shake loose and fall out of the carrier. Second it’s less awkward for me, and more intuitive. Going over the receiver allows me to easily hit the bolt release button on my Mossberg 930.

With a pump action shotgun going under the receiver may be the better choice. Going under the gun makes it easier to load and then activate the pump.

Once you have a round in the chamber you have two options that will be decided for you based on the situation. Either you are going to fire that round and prepare another speed reload, or you are going to go into a tactical reload. If you are still facing an active threat you’ll need to get that round down range and be really good at speed reloads.

What you need to remember is that a speed reload is something you want to avoid as much as possible with a shotgun. The only time it should happen is if things have gotten fast and furious and you are putting a lot of lead downrange. To avoid being reduced to a speed reload you have to be capable of doing tactical reloads.

Final Words

You can train with these techniques at home without having to invest a ton of money in ammo. I utilize Snap Caps to form muscle memory, and to build coordination for both reloads. Snap Caps are dummy rounds that replicate the size and weight of an actual round of buckshot. They are great for building those base level skills before hitting the range for practical application and safe to use in the house.

These techniques are not complicated, and are very important for a shotgun operator to learn and utilize. Luckily, they aren’t difficult to master. Take 15 minutes a day, and practice these reloads with Snap Caps. A little time, and effort will go a long way, and in a week you’ll see noticeable improvement in your shotgun mastery.

Happy Independence Day!

From all of us here at GAT Daily, Happy Independence Day!

The Grand Adventure that is the United States of America is now evolved beyond anything the Founders could have dreamed 241 years ago. It took the next 13 years to establish, ratify, and put into effect the U.S. Constitution, our great evolving experiment in self-governance. So much has has changed, the nation has grown, struggled, triumphed, and here today… we are at the helm.

Since it’s Tuesday the Holiday weekend is largely done. But take time to appreciate, to celebrate, to thank, and to remember the birth of this greatest of nations. Remember too that we are not done by any means. We are as responsible today for helping determine the continued course of the nation as the Founders were in the 18th Century.

So crack a cold one!

Grab a rifle and hit the range!

Fire up the grill and share a meal with friends and family!

Be safe, celebrate, let the fireworks fly!

And remember we aren’t done…

 

 

And stay tuned for more GAT content! It’s rolling down the pipeline

 

Podavach AR-AK Loader Review

AR15 loaders are currently all the rage, like gun oil a few years back. Picking the right one is a difficult task without buying a bunch. We have tried several now and Podavach has really caught our eye with their recent offering.

The Podavach Multi-Platform AR15 & AK Magazine loader might have a long name without any of the catch slogans its competition has, but what it lacks in glamor it makes up for in function. Podavach’s loader is designed to load 70% of the world’s rifle caliber small arms. The loader boasts compatibility with 5.56×45, 223, 5.45×39, 300AAC and 7.62×39 ammunition as well as common AR and AK mag styles. It will load 40 round PMAGs but it will likely have issue with drum or surefire 60 rounders.

The biggest issue I see with any magazine loader is getting the bullets into the loader. Every manufacturer likes to have their own special way of packing the ammo boxes making it haphazard in how you fill your loader. The easy dump tray of the Podavach makes putting rounds into the loader a breeze. Simply upend the box of ammo, reloads etc and you’re done. Once the dump tray is loaded you slide the ammunition into line and pull the handle. It’s so simple even a member of the DNC could do it.

Features:

The little things that Podavach paid attention to are what please me the most about this product. The “handle”, which is a wooden nub, is magnetized and stays in place very nicely even when the frame is tossed around.

The rubber feet hold the tray in place as you load the magazines if the surface is relatively flat like a desk or range bench. If, like me, you shoot outdoors most of the time and load at a makeshift wood bench or picnic table you might need to apply some downward force to keep it from shifting while loading. Frankly, I do not see any way to mitigate this with an alternate design outside some sort of hook which would raise other issues.

The wide assortment of ammo compatibility makes this a one-stop shot for most rifle calibers used in competition or classes. With the amount of guns I have to test, this is a godsend. The compatibility with all GI, PMAG, ETS, AK, etc mags means short of 308 or larger calibers Podavach has you covered.

It lays FLAT!!! Ok that should not need to have so many exclamations and capitals but it does for a huge reason. I talked about putting ammo in the loader as my biggest issues with most of these products. Besides this, we have found that most loaders are vertical, so there’s a chance for a bullet to fall over and screw up how you fill the loader. I had given up on ammo loaders for this reason. If a bullet fell over, it took me longer to load a mag than just doing it by hand. Sure, it saved my fingers, but time savings is an important selling point on most ammo loaders. By laying the bullets flat, they can’t fall over and mess it up. The tradeoff of being flat means this is the biggest of the various loaders I have tried. However, it’s lightweight and thin so it can easily fit in a rifle bag, backpack or large range bag easily.

Is it the perfect solution? No, nothing is. But it is the best solution I have found to save time and fingers when loading multiple mags. If I need to load a mag or 2 I don’t bring it out, but for 3 or more it’s worth it. The other downside to this system vs its competition is it has no unload feature. I still keep a LuLa around for that job but the Lula has been demoted to that job only.

If you want to save time, save your fingers, and load multiple calibers into various magazines, this is for you. The Podavach Multi-Platform AR15 & AK Magazine loader retails for $79.00 and can be bought online at https://podavach.com/ or at your local retailer.

After Action Review: Teufelshund Tactical SMG Operators Course, Overview/Pre-Course

In perfect harmony with the uptick in pistol caliber carbine interest I was given a valuable opportunity to attend a training course specifically geared towards the PCC/SMG market. We at GAT hit cyclically on the disparity of investment between an individuals equipment and their training. People have a tendency to vastly under invest in training even after purchasing premium equipment.

June 16th afforded me the chance to correct that tendency in my own habits and super charge my learning curve on a new (to me) weapons platform, an operator’s classic, the MP5.

Teufelshund Tactical put on an exceptional 3 Day course covering handgun and PCC/SMG employment, technology, body mechanics, and heavy fundamentals emphasis. Over 35 training hours of day time shooting, low light shooting, no light shooting, and classroom discussions.

I’m going to break this AAR into 4 parts, this overview and the 3 training days. There is simply to much material to cover in one read.

Special thanks are owed to Dakota Tactical for sponsoring the shoot and providing technical and hardware support to the shooters. I snagged one of their DTAC M-LOK Modular Handguards to mount a weapon light and Joe was able to get a couple down guns back into action quickly and back to training. Also thank you to Spectacle Lake Outdoor Club who hosted the shoot and allowed us to shoot day and night on a safe clean range with a club house to rest and use as our classroom.

Pre-Class Preparation

I’d like to say I’ve been planning on taking this course for awhile but in reality I had no intention of taking it, no knowledge of it’s existence, and didn’t own an MP5 or any SMG/Pistol Caliber Carbine. This was a very fortunate series of events starting from the disappointment of having the original class I planned to take from Haley Strategic fill up before I could purchase my slot.

I was in Iowa at the time taking an Armament Technician course (Army MOS 91F) when I logged on to book my seat with HSP for their September Carbine Course. I also happened to be down the road from Brownells and their shiny walk-in retail store, which has the full online inventory at your fingertips… relevant in a moment.

Like I said the D5 carbine class filled up and I was disappointed I’d have to pass on the opportunity… so to console my grieving self I went on a trip to Brownell’s with a pocket full of unspent class money… because that always prevents impulsive decisions.

MSR Pistol. Zenith/MKE Z5RS MP5

So Brownell’s had the new Zenith/MKE Z-5 series fresh off the trucks and sadly the H&K’s only came in the SP5K configuration which I did not want. I wanted the classic layout. Zenith and Brownell’s provided and I shipped the gun to my home store in Michigan with an SB Tactical brace to await my return.

I was sufficiently satiated in my grief and my pocket much lighter monetarily but still my goal of spending on training this year was a murky prospect…

Enter Teufelshund Tactical, owned by Haley Strategic Partners COO James Williamson (Maj. USMC, Ret.) who put their June course in Albion, MI to partner with Dakota Tactical.

SMG/PCC Training has a narrow list of choices so when the training for the weapon system you just impulse bought is hosted in your backyard and provided by the people you wanted to train with anyway you buy the seat. I contacted James and put my name on the class roster. Talking back and forth over a few emails I acquired the list of remaining necessary equipment I would need and I gathered it up.

Real quick aside. The title of the course was Advanced Pistol/Submachine Gun Operators Course. But for anyone feeling overwhelmed or under prepared by that title, from James himself… “There are no course prerequisites besides having a solid understanding and application of firearms safety and comfort shooting and moving in close proximity to other shooters.” Do not be afraid to buy a seat in a class. Learning and skill building are the goals. If you have specific questions ask them in detail. The instructor should be happy to give you the parameters physically and student expectations and discuss any accommodations in detail so you the student can come learn. Being on a SWAT Team or Military Combat Arms is in no way a prerequisite. They’d tell you if it was.

One thing you should NOT do is just sit and wait for the course. Preparedness brings success

I had two short months to prepare for the course and my goal was to shorten my learning curve as much as feasible so those three packed training days would generate the best results.

Anyone taking a course should spend time and effort on the range prior to verify equipment function and keep the basics of weapons handling at the forefront of your mind. Nothing like a stupid mistake because a skill set got dusty to put you behind or get yourself or someone else injured.

The MP5 was new territory so despite bringing 3,000 rounds to class I sent 1,000 rounds of practice down range in the two months prior. I tested all 5 of my magazines for function to capacity. I did numerous single shot presentations to get used to manipulating a safety lever I’m fairly certain was designed with some German the size of Andre the Giant holding the gun. I shot the little Z5-RS slick through the iron sights, with the optic rail mounted (resulting in a few bloody knuckles), and with a micro red dot ROMEO5 from SIG. I settled on running optics for the course and the ROMEO5 was on point with my Trijicon MRO on deck if the little SIG quit.

I wanted my fundamentals firmed up and moving with the little carbine to be comfortable so a few of the SOTG drills were run also. Finally and most importantly for shooting preparation I put a solid zero on the gun at 50m, it turns out 25m is standard but the adjustment during class was quick and simple. Most classes have a confirm zero portion as the first drill series and this is not the time to be putting a fresh zero on the gun, it’s making certain the zero you have is still accurate.

Complete PCC’s and PCI’s on your equipment, clean it, inspect it, check tightness, optics, gear, function check, etc.

The day prior to the course, in conjunction with the advice given in the coordinating instructions, I laid out and inspected all the gear coming with me to Albion. I cleaned and oiled the guns and magazines, checked the function on my electronics and packed spare batteries, double checked slings and small hardware, packed eye and ear protection and spares, and finally checked and sorted my ammunition for any obvious problems. .50 Cal can will hold 2,000 rounds and a .30 Cal can will do 1,000 no problem in case anyone is curious.

Bring redundant equipment, back up lights and pistol, tools, slings, holsters and plenty of mags, I could’ve used more.

I even brought my Glock 19 to back up my Sig Sauer P226 Legion. If I’d had a second subgun it would have been riding shotgun JIC. I have a lot of confidence in Z5 and the P226 but with high round counts anything can and often does happen. To keep training a spare piece of equipment helps if you can manage it.

Day One was in the morning…

Direct From Magpul! Now Shipping: UBR GEN2 Stock and AK74 5.45×39 PMAGs

As we role into summer time full force Magpul has brought some good news!

UBR® GEN2 COLLAPSIBLE STOCK

 
The UBR GEN2 is an adjustable stock for the AR15/M4, designed to offer the same strength and stability as a fixed stock with a consistent and comfortable cheek weld in any position. An update of the revolutionary Utility/Battle Rifle (UBR) stock, the UBR GEN2 features a fixed cheek piece to provide a consistent cheek weld in any of its eight positions, and is compatible with Carbine as well as A5-length buffer systems. Designed to accommodate large bore AR calibers and withstand severe impacts, the UBR GEN2 is nearly five ounces lighter while retaining all the durability its predecessor was legendary for. Comes standard with front and rear QD sling attachment points, two footman’s loops, the ergonomic MOE SL™ angled-toe rubber butt-pad, and customizable storage compartment.

In the words of Magpul

It looks like my SPR build may happen sooner now. I need one…

And some love for the AK lovers!

PMAG® 30 AK74 MOE® 5.45X39MM 

The PMAG 30 AK74 MOE is an inexpensive, lightweight, high reliability 30-round polymer magazine designed for Kalashnikov pattern rifles in 5.45x39mm (AK74, MPi-AK-74N, PA md. 86, and others.)
It features a removable floorplate, constant curve geometry, and a high-reliability/low-friction follower for the affordable performance you expect from a MOE PMAG.

A Gun Guy and a Game: Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Wildlands

From Travis Pike

For the last few months I’ve been playing a the game Ghost Recon Wildlands in the little down time I’ve had. The game is an absolute blast and has an amazing multiplayer aspect that lets me kick cartel ass with three friends. What it also features is a huge catalog of real world, completely configurable firearms. As a gun nut and a nerd, this combines the two things I love the most. I’ve flown across the entire map locating weapons, optics, grips, sights, lasers, and more to customize my arsenal.

There is something extremely satisfying to drifting around digital Bolivia armed with weapons I own in real life. Not only that but I can configure these weapons into customized variants topped with the optics and accessories I have used or use in real life. I can add Eotechs, Aimpoints, Magpul Pmags, and a lot more to the guns I use in the game.

The effects of this didn’t really hit me until a friend and I were playing and he said something to the degree, “Man it’d be cool to shoot these guns for real.”

 

At first I was all like pew pew, then I was all like Bang Bang

To which I replied, “We can, well at least a few of them.” My friend and I are nerd friends, not gun friends. He knew I owned guns and had an interest but had no idea to what extent because it never really came up. I told him to come over one day and he could try a variety of weapons from the game in real life, albeit without a giggle switch.

After a range day with an AK, a few ARs, a CZ Scorpion, a SIG 556R, and a wide variety of handguns he was hooked. Now almost two months later he’s purchased an AR 15 and AK clone from PSA, a CZ P07, a Glock 22, a Ruger LCP, and has gotten his concealed carry license. We’ve gone to the range almost every week, and he’s become a safe and passionate shooter.

 

Nothing like playing with guns you actually own

 

We are the same age but have very different backgrounds. He wasn’t anti-gun but wasn’t pro-gun either. He went from could care less about gun laws to filing a form 4 for a suppressor and championing the Hearing Protection act in under two months. All it took was a little spark to ignite his interest. This reminds me of a particular quote.

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. – Ronald Reagan.

Reagan is a controversial figure, but without a doubt the above quote is true. In the firearms industry, this is something we should seriously consider. All too often the gun industry seems to have a “Get off my lawn,” approach to younger generations of shooters. The stereotype of the grumpy gun store guy had to originate from somewhere right? The fact of the matter is we need new gun owners to keep gun rights alive. Depending on the idea that families will pass down a generational respect for firearms and gun rights is a bubble waiting to burst.

 

Video games are a very effective and safe way to introduce new people to guns. In the past, the gun community hasn’t been very friendly to video games. The NRA has often used them to scapegoat violence, and let’s face it video games don’t get any love from grumpy gun store guy. To me, looking down on people with an interest in guns caused by video games is a wasted opportunity.

If you can take that interest, and give it an opportunity, you can create new shooters. This isn’t about converting someone from party A to party B because party B is friendlier on gun rights. It’s about getting enough people from party A to like gun rights that it changes the entire party. If politically all I have in common with a person is we both fight for gun rights I’m happy to know them.

 

I know I’m not the only one that thinks video games can be a solid method to obtain new shooters for the community. I won’t name names, but plenty of anti-gun journalists have pointed out that these video games cause an interest in guns and gun culture. Even journalists in the video game realm who share the anti-gun sentiment seem to take issue with real life guns in games.

The Bad News

The downside to videogames and guns is that you can’t learn really learn anything functional about firearms. You learn a little about how a gun works like which way the magazine goes in, but not a whole lot more. The biggest thing video games don’t teach is firearms safety. The same goes for marksmanship, recoil control, and proper stance, grip, etc.

 

This is where we, as gun owners and rights advocates, can step up and help. Looking down on new shooters because they mention Ghost Recon or Call of Duty is a good way to guarantee they won’t care what you say about gun safety or technique. If you’re that grumpy gun store guy, maybe lighten up a bit. Never sacrifice safety for being polite, but have an open mind. If you take your nerd friends shooting for the first time, make it a positive experience.

Video games are the match that ignites interest. Don’t be the guy who blows the match out. Just be excellent to each other.

The Winchester 1897 – A Classic Tale Ahead by Design

 

From Travis Pike

The Winchester 1897 is one of the more distinctive historical shotguns out there. It’s been romanticized through movies and video games but its name is still one that will escape a lot of people. The 1897 was a big star beside 1911 in the film, the Wild Bunch. More recently it was the shotgun of choice for Llewelyn Moss as he battled Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men. It’s a shotgun that catches your eye. It’s not as plain as a Remington or Mossberg but isn’t over the top like a Spas 12 or Saiga for some. It’s a more civilized weapon for a more polite society.

History

The Winchester 1897 was the first commercially viable and successful pump action shotgun. It was designed by John Browning and was an improvement on his model 1893 shotgun. Browning had long considered the pump action to be the future of shotgun technology. His first shotgun repeater was the model 1887. John Browning produced the 1887 at the behest of Winchester under some protest. The heads of Winchester insisted they were a lever action company, and wanted a lever action shotgun. Browning designed the Model 1887, but wouldn’t leave the idea of his ‘slide action’ shotgun alone. Eventually, Winchester listened and he began designing the model 1893.

 

The Winchester 1897 was built to be stronger and more durable than the standard 1893. The 1893 was designed to be used with black powder, and could not safely fire smokeless powder shotgun shells. The Winchester 1897 was more robust to utilize the more powerful smokeless powder that was growing in popularity. The shotgun first premiered in Winchester’s November 1897 calendar in 12 and 16 gauge. The next year a takedown variant of the Win 1897 was produced. This takedown model made it possible to quickly remove the barrel of the shotgun. These days not a single shotgun is designed without this feature.

Design

The first thing that catches your eye when looking at the Winchester 1897 is the external hammer. Like a single action revolver the hammer must be cocked to the rear for the shotgun to fire. There is no manual safety for this shotgun. To safely carry this shotgun in condition 1 you have to carefully lower the hammer into the half cock position. Drop safe firearms weren’t a reality in 1897.

 

When the pump is pulled to the rear, the shotgun’s bolt assembly is pushed out of the weapon and cocks the hammer. This external hammer and action manipulation are unique to the Win Model 97. When the hammer is to the rear of the weapon you cannot cycle the pump without pressing a small release located on the rear of the receiver.

 

The shotgun does not have a trigger disconnector. This allows the shooter to hold down the trigger and the shotgun will fire every time the system comes back into battery. This is known as slam firing and makes rapid fire very easy. This feature would make it a brutal military weapon down the road.

 

The bolt cocks the hammer

A Life of Service

The Model 97 found its way across the United States in the hands of police forces and remained there for decades. It became the shotgun of choice for a dying breed of outlaw, as well as the lawmen hunting them down. The shotgun was used by American Express messengers transporting valuables through lawless areas. The pump action nature and 5 + 1 capacity of the Model 97 gave armed men an unparalleled amount of on deck firepower for the time period. The Model 97 soon found its way to the United States Army.

The Great War

The shotgun itself was svelte and lightweight for the time period, and incredibly handy when compared to the issued battle rifles of the American soldier. When World War 1 came around the combat quickly developed into brutal trench warfare. Soldiers fighting in the trenches were often doing so in extreme close-quarters conditions.

 

These guns have long served hunters

 

The army modified the Winchester 1897 for combat with a heat shield and bayonet mount for the 1917 bayonet. The barrel was 20 inches inch and the 5+1 capacity made it an incredibly effective trench broom.

Trench warfare is the perfect place for the shotgun and the German’s quickly learned just how fierce the Winchester 1897 was. The slam fire and buckshot made it effective in the trenches far beyond any bolt action rifle. When equipped with a bayonet the Winchester 1897 was a fearsome opponent to face. It fired faster than any bolt action rifle, and the use of buckshot made first shots into kill shots.

 

The Winchester 1897 gained such a reputation that the Kaiser of Germany, and the German government, petitioned to have the shotgun banned from warfare. They claimed it was illegal under the laws of war outlined in the Hague because it caused “Unnecessary suffering.” To put this in perspective this was the war where nerve and mustard gas were being used. This is a war where tanks, flame throwers, machine guns, and shrapnel were being put to devastating effect in a major war for the first time.

 

That mustache has seen things

The Americans rejected the claim, and the Kaiser ordered any American prisoner with a shotgun be executed. In return, Captain Jack Pershing ordered any German with a saw blade knife or flamethrower be executed. There is a rumor that stated Captain Pershing also requested 10,000 more shotguns to irritate the Kaiser as well, but rumors are rumors.

Another legend revolves around Sergeant Fred Lloyd. Sergeant Lloyd, armed with a Model 97, cleared an entire village of Germans. He reportedly killed 30 before collapsing in exhaustion. I can’t find any official Army documents on this event, and only a story by Bo Barbour in an article on Army Shotguns. It has been quoted numerous times in the Winchester Model 1897 mythos.

The Winchester 1897 didn’t end its service in WW1. It served up until Vietnam in limited roles, and alongside other shotguns like the Model 12, and Ithaca 37. Winchester ended production of the Model 97 in 1957. The shotgun itself is a collector’s item these days. They vary greatly in price based on condition, with military models being the most desirable.

How It Handles

I can’t do a full review on this shotgun, even though I own one. I refuse to put it through any kind of durability or reliability test. I don’t have it in me to torture a shotgun made in 1902. I can comment on its handling though. Let me tell you, it’s sweet. The pump glides backward like it’s on ball bearings. The trigger has almost zero grit or creep. It’s just a slight wall, then a break.

 

Slam firing is extremely fun, but something I’ve only done twice with light birdshot loads. I mean super light loads. My 1897 is a functional shooter, but I prefer to look at it, respect its history, and show it off when the topic of antiques comes up. To this day the design holds up. It doesn’t feel outdated, and if this shotgun wasn’t a hundred years old I’d happily keep it by my bed for home security. The fact that it is a hundred years old and still functional is a testament to its design.

A More Civilized Weapon

The Winchester 1897 was on my gun bucket list for a long time. Now that I have one I can really appreciate the genius of John Moses Browning. It’s interesting just how far ahead of the curve he was on shotgun design. His slide action shotgun has influenced every pump action shotgun that followed. From the deer stand to the battlefield the Model 97 served cowboys, policemen, hunters, soliders and outlaws. The Winchester 1897 is a true American classic.